Why are judges lenient on some offenders?

[staninoodle 175]

If we were more stringent on offenders and made jails a place to fear,we mite actually begin to drive crime down,take away the luxuries and strip it down to the bare minimum of bed and a crap meal and introduce hard labour then jail mite not seem such such an easy alternative to crime.

Take it a step further and re introduce the death penalty,and we may just get a safer society and have safer streets with less lawlessness,Ive worked with offenders and they dont fear jail at all,the majority prefer it to CS.

Its not working thats clear,it needs fixing

[Longcol 604]

10 minutes ago, staninoodle said:

If we were more stringent on offenders and made jails a place to fear,we mite actually begin to drive crime down,take away the luxuries and strip it down to the bare minimum of bed and a crap meal and introduce hard labour then jail mite not seem such such an easy alternative to crime.

Take it a step further and re introduce the death penalty,and we may just get a safer society and have safer streets with less lawlessness,Ive worked with offenders and they dont fear jail at all,the majority prefer it to CS.

Its not working thats clear,it needs fixing

The thread is about how judges use existing law and sentencing policy, not your fantasies.

[ECCOnoob 1,050]

1 hour ago, staninoodle said:

If we were more stringent on offenders and made jails a place to fear,we mite actually begin to drive crime down,take away the luxuries and strip it down to the bare minimum of bed and a crap meal and introduce hard labour then jail mite not seem such such an easy alternative to crime.

Take it a step further and re introduce the death penalty,and we may just get a safer society and have safer streets with less lawlessness,Ive worked with offenders and they dont fear jail at all,the majority prefer it to CS.

Its not working thats clear,it needs fixing

Move to Saudi Arabia and live out your warped fantasy there.    You would fit in with attitude like that.

 

Edited April 29, 2019 by ECCOnoob

[Halibut 12]

6 hours ago, staninoodle said:

If we were more stringent on offenders and made jails a place to fear,we mite actually begin to drive crime down,take away the luxuries and strip it down to the bare minimum of bed and a crap meal and introduce hard labour then jail mite not seem such such an easy alternative to crime.

Take it a step further and re introduce the death penalty,and we may just get a safer society and have safer streets with less lawlessness,Ive worked with offenders and they dont fear jail at all,the majority prefer it to CS.

Its not working thats clear,it needs fixing

Really lame thinking. 3.5/10.

[Tony 10]

7 hours ago, staninoodle said:

If we were more stringent on offenders and made jails a place to fear,we mite actually begin to drive crime down,take away the luxuries and strip it down to the bare minimum of bed and a crap meal and introduce hard labour then jail mite not seem such such an easy alternative to crime.

Take it a step further and re introduce the death penalty,and we may just get a safer society and have safer streets with less lawlessness,Ive worked with offenders and they dont fear jail at all,the majority prefer it to CS.

Its not working thats clear,it needs fixing

Or, we could concentrate on rehabilitation so offenders become ex-offenders, because not even the death penalty stops crime.

 

[staninoodle 175]

On 30/04/2019 at 06:55, Tony said:

Or, we could concentrate on rehabilitation so offenders become ex-offenders, because not even the death penalty stops crime.

 

Well thats complete carp isnt it,because once their dead they cant commit crime

On 30/04/2019 at 06:07, Halibut said:

Really lame thinking. 3.5/10.

Well rehabillitation doesnt work does it,because their all back on community service within 6 months

[staninoodle 175]

So you advocate re offending then......so how would you cut it out?make jail a hotel?

Why dont offenders fear jail? It costs upwards of a grand per week to house one offender

[staninoodle 175]

On 29/04/2019 at 23:47, Longcol said:

The thread is about how judges use existing law and sentencing policy, not your fantasies.

Its a forum,where you voice an opinion or have you lost sight of what forum means

[Cyclone 10]

On 05/05/2019 at 00:57, staninoodle said:

Well thats complete carp isnt it,because once their dead they cant commit crime

Well rehabillitation doesnt work does it,because their all back on community service within 6 months

Do you actually know the recidivism rates?

The death penalty guarantees no more offences, it doesn't work as a deterrent, it does mean that the state kills innocent people by mistake, it's also morally difficult to justify in any case even without those problems.

On 05/05/2019 at 01:35, staninoodle said:

Its a forum,where you voice an opinion or have you lost sight of what forum means

It's a forum where you discuss a particular topic as identified by the topic title and opening post.

There are existing threads to discuss the death penalty if that's what you want to do, but it's not relevant to the OP is it.

[Revel 10]

As someone else said, prisons are expensive and we don't have enough of them.

 

But, there's also the fact that the majority of judges (especially magistrates) are white, middle-class, and male. They live in leafy suburbs with no actual understanding of what life is like in deprived crime-ridden areas.

 

In 2016/2017 the prison cost was £3.395 billion. Sounds like a lot. But here are some comparisons:

 

Trident: £205 billion

NHS: £124.7 billion

HS2: £55.7 billion

Social Welfare: £222 billion

 

The whole system is massively underfunded and, for those unlucky enough to actually get jailed, there's no real rehabilitation program inside.

[Black Brick 10]

I cant believe that some drivers have been allowed to achieve over 100 points on their driving licences. The ability to change the behaviour of these people cannot be dealt with by the law.