alarmingmark 32 #37 Posted April 21, 2019 Probably down to poor design / cheap all in one fitting , security floodlights need to be at high level pointing down to flood large areas ..not halfway up a property pointing outwards ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jomie 30 #38 Posted April 21, 2019 Pattricia - here is South Yorkshire Police Crime Prevention website. It contains information about preventing burglaries. One of the points they make is to ask neighbours to keep a watch on your property, particularly when away from home. As this man lives right across the road from you it would be expedient to be on good terms rather than antagonise him. It could be far more useful in preventing a burglary than lights. They also mention Neighbourhood Watch. As you have had several burglaries in your street, perhaps you could set one up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hauxwell 243 #39 Posted April 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, Jomie said: Pattricia - here is South Yorkshire Police Crime Prevention website. It contains information about preventing burglaries. One of the points they make is to ask neighbours to keep a watch on your property, particularly when away from home. As this man lives right across the road from you it would be expedient to be on good terms rather than antagonise him. It could be far more useful in preventing a burglary than lights. They also mention Neighbourhood Watch. As you have had several burglaries in your street, perhaps you could set one up? Good information, I was going to say the same. If Pattricia lives alone she should tell her neighbour her concerns about the burglaries. Also if the problem can be sorted ask the neighbour to keep an eye on her house, and try and start a neighbourhood watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ANGELFIRE1 10 #40 Posted April 21, 2019 Why would any one want to light their property up from dawn to dusk, a bit daft if you ask me. Much better the motion sensor light which comes on when billy bobbins walks up to the property, much more likely to scare him off. As for a neighbour who would choose to illuminate my house from dawn till dusk, I would have a quiet word to try to resolve the matter, which is just common sense. If the light pollution persisted I would notify the Council and ask for their assistance in getting a reasonable result to my complaint. As it is a civil matter the Police would not take action of any kind I would guess. Probably too busy clearing London of the great unwashed any way. Angel1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WiseOwl182 10 #41 Posted April 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Jomie said: That is correct but the neighbour has been quite reasonable in that he has not asked for the lights to be removed, merely that they be repositioned. The facts that he sleeps in the rear bedroom, has Venetian blinds and that other folk on the street have had lights installed are all irrelevant. For the sake of common courtesy, changing the angle of the lights or using motion sensor fittings would be the better option. I was referring to his tresspassing and interfering with the OP's private property. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
jaffa1 10 #42 Posted April 21, 2019 I think your son has fitted the wrong lamp, he should have fitted a PIR sensor light that only comes on by movement, if your light is on continually you wouldn't have a clue if someone was walking up your garden path. I've been known to get out of bed to check why my light has come on just to find it was a cat strolling about. I don't blame your neighbour for being annoyed, it's not necessary to have it on all through the night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3 10 #43 Posted April 21, 2019 The light needs to be focused on the property it is protecting and should be on a sensor. I’d be annoyed if a light was continuously beaming at my house from dusk till dawn. That said I’d also be furious if a neighbour went on my property without permission so Patricia you need to be firm about that. But get somebody to fit the correct security solutions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
pattricia 575 #44 Posted April 21, 2019 4 hours ago, WiseOwl182 said: I was referring to his tresspassing and interfering with the OP's private property. Thank goodness we have someone with brains on this forum ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jomie 30 #45 Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) Quote Quote Pattricia: Thank goodness we have someone with brains on this forum ! Pattricia - you are just cherry picking the replies in order to find someone who agrees with you. I agreed with you in post #10 but it doesn’t alter the fact that you and your son instigated this problem and that it is very easily remedied. In answer to your original question, your neighbour can come onto your property and adjust the light that is annoying him because you allege that he has already done so. The question is therefore answered. You really ought to have asked whether his (alleged) action is legal. You don’t need forum members to tell you that it is not but he did no criminal damage and his intention was not malicious. He (allegedly) did it because your lights are causing pollution and are bothering him, and because you refused to comply with his reasonable request to adjust the angle of them. Are you going to prosecute him for trespass? You will need proof BTW. Your previous post indicates that you are deliberately evading the problem, which is the placement and type of lights. If you have any sense at all you will deal with this in an amicable and respectful manner. If your son is a qualified electrician he should be able to remedy the problem easily. If not, perhaps you could consider employing one to do the job properly. Edited April 22, 2019 by Jomie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
steve68 66 #46 Posted April 22, 2019 12 hours ago, WiseOwl182 said: I was referring to his tresspassing and interfering with the OP's private property. However the O/P seems happy to interfere with someone else's property by lightning it up, even if they have blinds they may just not want someone lighting up their property, and may see it as increasing thier risk of being broken into. we have motion sensor floodlights that are set to come on for 50sec, our view is anything set to permanently illuminate over night, is just giving an intruder a light to work by. also our CCTV records in night vision, all our devices, lights and CCTV only cover our property with no over spill. I can see why the O/P wants these measures, but I can also see why they maybe causing an issue too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RollingJ 2,022 #47 Posted April 22, 2019 Whilst I can agree that dusk-to-dawn lighting is not the best idea and that motion sensitive PIRs are a much better idea, from both a deterrent and power-saving point of view, have any of you slating the OP considered that the neighbour may be at fault here? None of us have on-site knowledge, so everyone is jumping to conclusions - me included. My advice to @pattricia is to get a security lighting engineer and have the lights converted, and obtain guidance as to the correct placement and coverage of the lights. Just my two-pennorth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WiseOwl182 10 #48 Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, steve68 said: However the O/P seems happy to interfere with someone else's property by lightning it up, even if they have blinds they may just not want someone lighting up their property, and may see it as increasing thier risk of being broken into. we have motion sensor floodlights that are set to come on for 50sec, our view is anything set to permanently illuminate over night, is just giving an intruder a light to work by. also our CCTV records in night vision, all our devices, lights and CCTV only cover our property with no over spill. I can see why the O/P wants these measures, but I can also see why they maybe causing an issue too. Yes I agree, I have similar. I was just making the point that two wrongs don't make a right. The neighbour may be annoyed but that does not give them the right to tresspass and tamper with private property. That doesn't mean that the OP should disregard their concern though, they should make adjustments, which no matter how long the drive is, I cannot understand why the light has to illuminate across the road. They should then set up CCTV to have the twin benefit of adding to security and capturing the neighbour should any proof of further tresspass be needed later on. Edited April 22, 2019 by WiseOwl182 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...