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6 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

It’s not just rabbits - they’re classed as pests anyway I think - but mink will hoover up all sorts eggs and they’ll not care if those eggs come from chickens or rare birds. 

 

https://www.norfolkwildlifetrust.org.uk/wildlife-in-norfolk/species-explorer/mammals/american-mink

It's bizarre then that farmers and "countryside folk" wage an indiscriminate war on the very animals that hunt rabbits...foxes, birds of prey etc. It's almost as though they just prefer killing for the fun of it.

 

The landscape in Britain has been managed by humans to such an extent that to rebalance it we need to rewild. Bring back the wolves and frig the landred gentry and the shooting fraternity.

 

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I like wild rabbits, providing they’ve been shot, skinned, paunched,  jointed and casseroled with some vegetables !

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1 hour ago, makapaka said:

I don’t know - but someone who considered themselves qualified enough to to do it.

 

why does it matter?

 

the wider point is why people in this country  consider ourselves fit to interfere initially and posthumously in matters of nature.


who are we to say minks should be killed and rabbits should survive - that’s the point I’m making.

Admitting you "... don't know..." who introduced seven non-native hedgehogs and guessing that they were "...qualified  enough to do it.",(both wrong) implies that you have not considered the implication on the the drastic direct effect of 5000 hedgehogs on many more thousands of birds from several different species on several islands that the hedgehogs had  spread to.

 

Equally simplistic is the statement that it is an issue of interference in deciding if  "...minks should be killed and rabbits should survive...".

At the lowest level it should be 'Do we allow the population of mink which directly reduce the populations of fish, shellfish, crayfish, frogs, snakes, lizards, large insects, small rodents, rabbits, nutria, waterfowl, upland birds and eggs etc. and the change in dozens of habitats across the country.

 

We have not got the right to stand back and ignore the destruction of thousands of habitats.

 

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35 minutes ago, Annie Bynnol said:

Admitting you "... don't know..." who introduced seven non-native hedgehogs and guessing that they were "...qualified  enough to do it.",(both wrong) implies that you have not considered the implication on the the drastic direct effect of 5000 hedgehogs on many more thousands of birds from several different species on several islands that the hedgehogs had  spread to.

 

Equally simplistic is the statement that it is an issue of interference in deciding if  "...minks should be killed and rabbits should survive...".

At the lowest level it should be 'Do we allow the population of mink which directly reduce the populations of fish, shellfish, crayfish, frogs, snakes, lizards, large insects, small rodents, rabbits, nutria, waterfowl, upland birds and eggs etc. and the change in dozens of habitats across the country.

 

We have not got the right to stand back and ignore the destruction of thousands of habitats.

 

Isn’t it just nature?

 

how are creatures going to evolve?

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1 hour ago, makapaka said:

Isn’t it just nature?

 

how are creatures going to evolve?

With difficulty if they get wiped out!

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22 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

With difficulty if they get wiped out!

Dodo!

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1 hour ago, tinfoilhat said:

With difficulty if they get wiped out!

The point being - why have we appointed ourselves as natures selector?

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14 minutes ago, makapaka said:

The point being - why have we appointed ourselves as natures selector?

We did, hundreds, maybe thousands of years ago. We've wiped out thousands and thousands of species with one method or another - and we'll wipe out thousands more before we're done. Plenty of wild mink in the states, over here they do damage.

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7 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

We did, hundreds, maybe thousands of years ago. We've wiped out thousands and thousands of species with one method or another - and we'll wipe out thousands more before we're done. Plenty of wild mink in the states, over here they do damage.

Fair enough. We’ll just add mink in this country to the list i suppose.

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8 minutes ago, makapaka said:

Fair enough. We’ll just add mink in this country to the list i suppose.

Better them than say, water voles.

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20 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

Better them than say, water voles.

Why?

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