taxman   12 #61 Posted February 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said: It’s not just rabbits - they’re classed as pests anyway I think - but mink will hoover up all sorts eggs and they’ll not care if those eggs come from chickens or rare birds.  https://www.norfolkwildlifetrust.org.uk/wildlife-in-norfolk/species-explorer/mammals/american-mink It's bizarre then that farmers and "countryside folk" wage an indiscriminate war on the very animals that hunt rabbits...foxes, birds of prey etc. It's almost as though they just prefer killing for the fun of it.  The landscape in Britain has been managed by humans to such an extent that to rebalance it we need to rewild. Bring back the wolves and frig the landred gentry and the shooting fraternity.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mossway   15 #62 Posted February 16, 2020 I like wild rabbits, providing they’ve been shot, skinned, paunched,  jointed and casseroled with some vegetables ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Annie Bynnol   596 #63 Posted February 16, 2020 1 hour ago, makapaka said: I don’t know - but someone who considered themselves qualified enough to to do it.  why does it matter?  the wider point is why people in this country  consider ourselves fit to interfere initially and posthumously in matters of nature. who are we to say minks should be killed and rabbits should survive - that’s the point I’m making. Admitting you "... don't know..." who introduced seven non-native hedgehogs and guessing that they were "...qualified enough to do it.",(both wrong) implies that you have not considered the implication on the the drastic direct effect of 5000 hedgehogs on many more thousands of birds from several different species on several islands that the hedgehogs had spread to.  Equally simplistic is the statement that it is an issue of interference in deciding if "...minks should be killed and rabbits should survive...". At the lowest level it should be 'Do we allow the population of mink which directly reduce the populations of fish, shellfish, crayfish, frogs, snakes, lizards, large insects, small rodents, rabbits, nutria, waterfowl, upland birds and eggs etc. and the change in dozens of habitats across the country.  We have not got the right to stand back and ignore the destruction of thousands of habitats.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #64 Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Annie Bynnol said: Admitting you "... don't know..." who introduced seven non-native hedgehogs and guessing that they were "...qualified enough to do it.",(both wrong) implies that you have not considered the implication on the the drastic direct effect of 5000 hedgehogs on many more thousands of birds from several different species on several islands that the hedgehogs had spread to.  Equally simplistic is the statement that it is an issue of interference in deciding if "...minks should be killed and rabbits should survive...". At the lowest level it should be 'Do we allow the population of mink which directly reduce the populations of fish, shellfish, crayfish, frogs, snakes, lizards, large insects, small rodents, rabbits, nutria, waterfowl, upland birds and eggs etc. and the change in dozens of habitats across the country.  We have not got the right to stand back and ignore the destruction of thousands of habitats.  Isn’t it just nature?  how are creatures going to evolve? Edited February 16, 2020 by makapaka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #65 Posted February 16, 2020 1 hour ago, makapaka said: Isn’t it just nature?  how are creatures going to evolve? With difficulty if they get wiped out! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
carosio   178 #66 Posted February 16, 2020 22 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said: With difficulty if they get wiped out! Dodo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MICK BADGER Â Â 21 #67 Posted February 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, carosio said: Dodo! as in dead as a Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #68 Posted February 16, 2020 1 hour ago, tinfoilhat said: With difficulty if they get wiped out! The point being - why have we appointed ourselves as natures selector? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #69 Posted February 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, makapaka said: The point being - why have we appointed ourselves as natures selector? We did, hundreds, maybe thousands of years ago. We've wiped out thousands and thousands of species with one method or another - and we'll wipe out thousands more before we're done. Plenty of wild mink in the states, over here they do damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #70 Posted February 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said: We did, hundreds, maybe thousands of years ago. We've wiped out thousands and thousands of species with one method or another - and we'll wipe out thousands more before we're done. Plenty of wild mink in the states, over here they do damage. Fair enough. We’ll just add mink in this country to the list i suppose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #71 Posted February 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, makapaka said: Fair enough. We’ll just add mink in this country to the list i suppose. Better them than say, water voles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #72 Posted February 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said: Better them than say, water voles. Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...