Bash Street   10 #25 Posted April 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cyclone said: No, I don't think any households think those things are okay today. Which is evidence that societal norms can change. Then I can only assume you led a very sheltered life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bash Street   10 #26 Posted April 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, Cyclone said: This demonstrates what is, not what should be. And there we have it, in your own words. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WiseOwl182 Â Â 10 #27 Posted April 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Bash Street said: And there we have it, in your own words. Should women be allowed to do traditionally male jobs, like construction or armed forces, for example? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bash Street   10 #28 Posted April 14, 2019 19 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said: Should women be allowed to do traditionally male jobs, like construction or armed forces, for example? If based on capabilities then yes, of course they should. If you mean to get the numbers up to appease the equalities lobby then no, they shouldn't.  What about sport for instance, I love watching sport, just having a lazy day watching the US Masters. Now if there was a woman capable of winning that then she should be allowed to compete, but there isn't anyone. Love watching football as well, that is the men's game, can't watch women playing as it's like watching the game in slow motion. I do like watching women's volleyball though and not the men's game. That's strange isn't it. Don't mind watching ladies golf as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #29 Posted April 14, 2019 7 hours ago, Bash Street said: Then I can only assume you led a very sheltered life. You think that there are people who consider slavery to be acceptable and that a husband cannot legally rape his wife (well, this last one isn't a moral position, it's a factual one and we know full well that anyone who asserts that is simply wrong)? Perhaps this says more about your life than mine. 7 hours ago, Bash Street said: And there we have it, in your own words. There we have what. I'm not sure you entirely grasp the point of this discussion. 4 hours ago, Bash Street said: If based on capabilities then yes, of course they should. If you mean to get the numbers up to appease the equalities lobby then no, they shouldn't. See, I think you've got it all backwards. The question was "should they be allowed"... The answer is that that shouldn't even be a question. Either people should be allowed or they shouldn't. Any capability based testing would then obviously be acceptable to be applied to all those people. But nobody should have the power to allow or not allow an entire gender to do a job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bash Street   10 #30 Posted April 14, 2019 41 minutes ago, Cyclone said: You think that there are people who consider slavery to be acceptable and that a husband cannot legally rape his wife (well, this last one isn't a moral position, it's a factual one and we know full well that anyone who asserts that is simply wrong)? Perhaps this says more about your life than mine. There we have what. I'm not sure you entirely grasp the point of this discussion. See, I think you've got it all backwards. The question was "should they be allowed"... The answer is that that shouldn't even be a question. Either people should be allowed or they shouldn't. Any capability based testing would then obviously be acceptable to be applied to all those people. But nobody should have the power to allow or not allow an entire gender to do a job. Take a look at my sig.😀 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #31 Posted April 15, 2019 You don't have a signature. Nobody appears to have one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #32 Posted April 15, 2019 Must be your settings or something. I can see them - Bash Streets is - A man who moralises is usually a hypocrite. Oscar Wilde Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Flanker7 Â Â 20 #33 Posted April 15, 2019 13 hours ago, Cyclone said: ............ ............But nobody should have the power to allow or not allow an entire gender to do a job. But should anyone , or any organisation , have the power to allow or not allow an entire gender to compete in any sporting event. Like any event that titles its self 'Womens' or 'Ladies'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RootsBooster   24 #34 Posted April 15, 2019 On 13/04/2019 at 23:54, Bash Street said: It's the way of the world, always has been, certainly the judge in the case was thinking along the same lines as me. If it's the way of the world there will surely be an abundance of similar examples then. Can you provide some? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bash Street   10 #35 Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, RootsBooster said: If it's the way of the world there will surely be an abundance of similar examples then. Can you provide some? Can't be bothered to be honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RootsBooster   24 #36 Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Bash Street said: Can't be bothered to be honest. Just trollin', then. Edited April 15, 2019 by RootsBooster Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...