LGBT issues and morality

[Top Cats Hat 10]

1 hour ago, MAC33 said:

Tbd  more aware of it they become the more 'normal' they consider it.

Bingo! You've finally got it! 🙄

[Mister M 1,625]

2 hours ago, MAC33 said:

It's obvious from the statistics what is happening.

 

The more this LBGQT stuff is taught is discussed  in school the more kids become aware of it.

 

Tbe  more aware of it they become the more 'normal' they consider it.

 

When you are a confused kid the more you might get confused about your own gender.

Whether or not it is taught in school, children will discuss it. Children nowadays have mainstream media where the discussion of sexuality is more frank and sometimes misleading; and social media where all manner of things relating to sexuality are open for discussion.

I think it is to be welcomed that some schools are trying to promote a discussion of sexuality which is sensitive, age appropriate and based on reason. If that normalises same sex relationships then all power to the schools that are adopting this approach. 

 

What is particularly depressing is that Andrew Moffat, a highly decorated head teacher at one of the Birmingham schools has been the subject of a hate campaign both online, and in person. https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/mar/04/birmingham-school-stops-lgbt-lessons-after-parent-protests

 

Previously, a headteacher who used Andrew Moffat's teaching materials in his school's classes was the subject of homophobic abuse because he was trying to tackle homophobia https://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/nov/11/primary-school-headteacher-attacked-fighting-homophobia

 

Frankly, it's not the children that are confused about sexuality, it's the parents, and some in wider society.

 

 

Edited April 2, 2019 by Mister M

[Top Cats Hat 10]

7 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Frankly, it's not the children that are confused about sexuality, it's the parents, and some in wider society.

That is the crux of the whole argument.

 

If you ever see a group of very young children of mixed race, gender and ability playing you will see very little evidence of any racism or sexism and in fact if anything, difference is viewed with fascination rather than suspicion.

 

Prejudice is not innate, it is learned from adults in society which is why it is so important that their first influences on race, gender or sexuality  are from responsible teachers rather than irresponsible parents and older shildren. Responsible parents should not have a problem with that. 

 

Let us not forget that it is not solely religious zealots who want to prevent their children being properly educated. It wasn't too long ago that a Conservative government outlawed teaching children about homosexual equality through their despised Clause 28. 

[Cyclone 10]

20 hours ago, MAC33 said:

Tbe  more aware of it they become the more 'normal' they consider it.

 

It IS normal, they SHOULD consider it to be normal.  That's sort of the point.

[Obelix 11]

20 hours ago, MAC33 said:

It's obvious from the statistics what is happening.

 

The more this LBGQT stuff is taught is discussed  in school the more kids become aware of it.

 

Tbe  more aware of it they become the more 'normal' they consider it.

 

When you are a confused kid the more you might get confused about your own gender.

Well firstly, it *is* a normal thing. IT happens - to a minority of people compared to the majority but it's as normal and about prevelant as people with green eyes. Just because you see someone with green eyese does it make you more confused about your eye colour?

[ANGELFIRE1 10]

On 30/03/2019 at 20:08, Top Cats Hat said:

Is suspect that you don't actually know what multiculturalism is.

"Multiculturalism" is the co-existence of diverse cultures, where culture includes racial, religious, or cultural groups and is manifested in customary behaviours, cultural assumptions and values, patterns of thinking, and communicative styles.

 

There you are.

 

Angel1.

[MAC33 10]

 

Another interesting article showing how if you disagree with homosexuality or transgenderism your options are cut.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/yale-law-excludes-students-who-work-at-christian-conservative-orgs-from-financial-support


April 3, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) - In the latest reminder that traditional Christian values are increasingly unwelcome in modern academia, Yale Law School has reportedly excluded students who work at organizations that stand by Biblical teachings on homosexuality from several financial support programs.

Aaron Haviland, a Yale Law student and Marine Corps veteran, reports at The Federalist that on March 25, the school announced its "nondiscrimination" policy was being expanded to summer public interest fellowships, post-graduate public interest fellowships, and loan forgiveness for careers in public interest. Specifically, these resources would no longer be made available to students and graduates who joined organizations that supposedly "discriminate" on the basis of "sexual orientation and gender identity and expression."

Edited April 4, 2019 by MAC33

[Obelix 11]

Good. About time someone kicked the bigots into touch.

[Branyy 10]

25 minutes ago, Obelix said:

Good. About time someone kicked the bigots into touch.

Yeah, I just hope that school representatives would treat equally also members of other conservative religious organizations.

Oh wait...

[Cyclone 10]

1 hour ago, MAC33 said:

 

Another interesting article showing how if you disagree with homosexuality or transgenderism your options are cut.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/yale-law-excludes-students-who-work-at-christian-conservative-orgs-from-financial-support


April 3, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) - In the latest reminder that traditional Christian values are increasingly unwelcome in modern academia, Yale Law School has reportedly excluded students who work at organizations that stand by Biblical teachings on homosexuality from several financial support programs.

Aaron Haviland, a Yale Law student and Marine Corps veteran, reports at The Federalist that on March 25, the school announced its "nondiscrimination" policy was being expanded to summer public interest fellowships, post-graduate public interest fellowships, and loan forgiveness for careers in public interest. Specifically, these resources would no longer be made available to students and graduates who joined organizations that supposedly "discriminate" on the basis of "sexual orientation and gender identity and expression."

It's quite correct to exclude financial support from people who are working for organisation that actually discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity and expression.

[MAC33 10]

Many religions including Christianity believe homosexuality is immoral.

 

Possibly looking at around half the worlds population.

 

It does not mean these people discriminate against homosexual and transgender people.

 

I have never discriminated  even once against such people though I do not support it in any way,and yes I do believe it is immoral.

[SnailyBoy 10]

4 minutes ago, MAC33 said:

Many religions including Christianity believe homosexuality is immoral.

 

Possibly looking at around half the worlds population.

 

It does not mean these people discriminate against homosexual and transgender people.

 

I have never discriminated  even once against such people though I do not support it in any way,and yes I do believe it is immoral.

Why do you believe it's immoral?