Climate change protests

[Pettytom 1]

Just now, retep said:

A start would be turning off the computers of those who seem to be worried about the climate, next their mobile phones then their motorised transport, almost forgot their electricity and gas supply, peas and rice to them, and don't have a wood fire it causes global warming, 

A diet of cold turnip may bring them back to reality.

 

How’s your new found green zeal going?

 

Did you join population matters?

[retep 68]

11 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

How’s your new found green zeal going?

 

Did you join population matters?

I'm already a full member of the population, have you sent Al Gore a contribution to his bank balance yet?

[Organgrinder 1,946]

1 hour ago, Pettytom said:

Lord Rothermere owns The Mail and the Metro.. Lives in France. Dodges tax.
 

Rupert Murdoch. Billionaire. Owns the Sun and Times  Dodges tax.

 

Richard Desmond. Billionaire. Owns Express group and Star.  Dodges tax. Lives in UK.

 

Barclay Brothers. Billionaires. Live on Sark (sort of). Own Telegraph group. Dodge tax.

 

Alex Lebedev part owns the Standard and the Independent. Billionaire. Ex KGB.

 

These are the men who control our “free press”. A day without their propaganda won’t do anyone any harm.

 

 

 

 

I second that

1 hour ago, retep said:

A start would be turning off the computers of those who seem to be worried about the climate, next their mobile phones then their motorised transport, almost forgot their electricity and gas supply, peas and rice to them, and don't have a wood fire it causes global warming, 

A diet of cold turnip may bring them back to reality.

 

If this is the serious discussion about climate change, you can see how Extinction Rebellion came into being.

Serious subject so can we give it some serious thought?

[retep 68]

10 hours ago, Organgrinder said:

I second that

If this is the serious discussion about climate change, you can see how Extinction Rebellion came into being.

Serious subject so can we give it some serious thought?

Have you given it some serious thought, if so give us the answer, the only way to prevent your so called climate change is to go back to the stone age, can't see many of the rebellious factions giving up their mobiles and walking hundreds of miles to their protests.

[ECCOnoob 1,020]

11 hours ago, Pettytom said:

Lord Rothermere owns The Mail and the Metro.. Lives in France. Dodges tax.
 

Rupert Murdoch. Billionaire. Owns the Sun and Times  Dodges tax.

 

Richard Desmond. Billionaire. Owns Express group and Star.  Dodges tax. Lives in UK.

 

Barclay Brothers. Billionaires. Live on Sark (sort of). Own Telegraph group. Dodge tax.

 

Alex Lebedev part owns the Standard and the Independent. Billionaire. Ex KGB.

 

These are the men who control our “free press”. A day without their propaganda won’t do anyone any harm.

 

Very coincidental there is no mention of labour mouthpiece the Daily Mirror despite the fact its controlled by one of the biggest publishing corporations that also happens to own Daily Express, Daily Star, The Daily Record, OK magazine and just about every local rag you can think of.

 

Also note the dahling of the placard wavers The Guardian isnt mentioned too.  Oh yes it may well have some alleged "independent" trust owning it but said trust is controlled by a multi-millionaire TV and Media executive.  

 

I wonder why those publications avoided criticism and disruption by the morons. Could it perhaps be that they have the same political biases? 

 

So forgive me for not buying into ER's reasoning for their stunt.  

 

Is the message really about climate change or just a bunch of election losers trying to once again find a flimsy excuse to do a load of anti-Tory attacking.

[Anna B 1,401]

7 hours ago, retep said:

Have you given it some serious thought, if so give us the answer, the only way to prevent your so called climate change is to go back to the stone age, can't see many of the rebellious factions giving up their mobiles and walking hundreds of miles to their protests.

No, it isn't. This is just a populist sound bite put about by those with an agenda, to end discussion.

 

There are lots of ways both small and large that can improve the situation.

Sure they will involve changes that won't suit everyone, but then nothing ever does.

 

People can make difference at a smaller, local level - look at how recycling has taken off these last few years, and they can be persuaded to make other beneficial changes to the wasteful way we live, but the big ticket items have to start with governments persuading big business to change their ways of working. They could start with packaging, and materials that biodegrade. 

 

Far from returning to the stone age, technology has a huge role to play in bringing about new ideas, inventions, and ways of creating sustainable power that will serve us all.

[retep 68]

1 hour ago, Anna B said:

No, it isn't. This is just a populist sound bite put about by those with an agenda, to end discussion.

 

There are lots of ways both small and large that can improve the situation.

Sure they will involve changes that won't suit everyone, but then nothing ever does.

 

People can make difference at a smaller, local level - look at how recycling has taken off these last few years, and they can be persuaded to make other beneficial changes to the wasteful way we live, but the big ticket items have to start with governments persuading big business to change their ways of working. They could start with packaging, and materials that biodegrade. 

 

Far from returning to the stone age, technology has a huge role to play in bringing about new ideas, inventions, and ways of creating sustainable power that will serve us all.

Surely that's what has caused the climate change ( if you believe in it )?

[Pettytom 1]

9 minutes ago, retep said:

Surely that's what has caused the climate change ( if you believe in it )?

Not modern tech though. We are well on the way to clean transport and clean energy. Old tech certainly caused the problem, we need to replace it with better

 

There’s no need to believe in it, just look at the scientific evidence 

[retep 68]

8 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

Not modern tech though. We are well on the way to clean transport and clean energy. Old tech certainly caused the problem, we need to replace it with better

 

There’s no need to believe in it, just look at the scientific evidence 

Really,

"China Wrestles with the Toxic Aftermath of Rare Earth Mining"

 

https://e360.yale.edu/features/china-wrestles-with-the-toxic-aftermath-of-rare-earth-mining

[andyofborg 11]

40 minutes ago, retep said:

Really,

"China Wrestles with the Toxic Aftermath of Rare Earth Mining"

 

https://e360.yale.edu/features/china-wrestles-with-the-toxic-aftermath-of-rare-earth-mining

Not sure what this has to do with climate change, but the consequences of the careless mining of all sorts of things have been known about for decades and have been the trigger for reams of legislation designed to minimise and undo these effects.

 

China (and other jurisdictions) could have used these experiences and done a better job. China is one of the few places which have the political structures where they could have done a better job before rather than after. For all sorts of reasons they chose not too which is a shame for everyone. 

 

 

[The Joker 10]

On 06/09/2020 at 18:46, Car Boot said:

What we have seen in the last year is the very middle class, non diverse Extinction Rebellion becoming more and more radicalised and moving away from persuasion and lawful demonstration towards organised criminality which aims to spread fear and bring disruption to the lives of the working class. 

As a fully paid-up* member of the proletariat can I say how relieved I was that XR managed to shut down tax-dodging billionaire Rupert Murdoch's foul propaganda machine, even if only for a couple of hours.

 

*only joking, membership is free

[tinfoilhat 11]

12 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

Very coincidental there is no mention of labour mouthpiece the Daily Mirror despite the fact its controlled by one of the biggest publishing corporations that also happens to own Daily Express, Daily Star, The Daily Record, OK magazine and just about every local rag you can think of.

 

Also note the dahling of the placard wavers The Guardian isnt mentioned too.  Oh yes it may well have some alleged "independent" trust owning it but said trust is controlled by a multi-millionaire TV and Media executive.  

 

I wonder why those publications avoided criticism and disruption by the morons. Could it perhaps be that they have the same political biases? 

 

So forgive me for not buying into ER's reasoning for their stunt.  

 

Is the message really about climate change or just a bunch of election losers trying to once again find a flimsy excuse to do a load of anti-Tory attacking.

Well when labour is in charge they’ll blockade the guardian and the mirror and the morning star if it’s still in print.