Ghozer   112 #109 Posted March 27, 2019 On 18/03/2019 at 22:01, WiseOwl182 said: Yes, and Bochum Parkway up to 50 or 60 too. The reason they wont, is because there are horse fields and stables next to it.... it wont be raised due to this for various reasons... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WiseOwl182 Â Â 10 #110 Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ghozer said: The reason they wont, is because there are horse fields and stables next to it.... it wont be raised due to this for various reasons... Reasons such as...? Stray horses suddenly escaping and jumping on to the dual carriageway, getting hit at 50mph instead of 40mph? Â Given today's announcement of the EU forcing speed limiters in new cars from 2022, getting speed limits correct in the first place is even more pertinent. Edited March 27, 2019 by WiseOwl182 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Ghozer   112 #111 Posted March 27, 2019 Just now, WiseOwl182 said: Reasons such as...? Stray horses suddenly escaping and jumping on to the dual carriageway, getting hit at 50mph instead of 40mph? Exactly, it's safer for the driver(s) and horses if a horse jumps and escapes (has happened before) and also when the riders are riding down the road, you cannot pass a horse at greater than 40 i believe.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WiseOwl182 Â Â 10 #112 Posted March 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Ghozer said: Exactly, it's safer for the driver(s) and horses if a horse jumps and escapes (has happened before) and also when the riders are riding down the road, you cannot pass a horse at greater than 40 i believe.... Yet thousands of drivers do on that very stretch, day in, day out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Ghozer   112 #113 Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, WiseOwl182 said: Yet thousands of drivers do on that very stretch, day in, day out. and there's been campaigns and things to make drivers more aware of the horses, and why it's a danger to exceed the specified limit on there... I remember when I lived up that way, and had a horse just off there, it was so dangerous trying to take the horse out on a ride, or even switching to the upper field (across the road) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
DT Ralge   10 #114 Posted March 27, 2019 7 hours ago, Brooker11 said: People react differently in the circumstances, I would imaging its a fairly traumatic experience. Quite traumatic, indeed.  But that’s even  more of a reason to have a plan before the event, know what to do and to follow guidance/advice in getting to a place of true safety.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Brooker11   10 #115 Posted March 28, 2019 8 hours ago, DT Ralge said: Quite traumatic, indeed.  But that’s even  more of a reason to have a plan before the event, know what to do and to follow guidance/advice in getting to a place of true safety.   Ridiculous comment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest   #116 Posted March 28, 2019 15 hours ago, Easy livin said: Are people really so rushed in life that they are debating upping the speed limit on a few km of road by 10mph? i would imagine that the time saving would be in the seconds over the distance.    The debate is not about saving time or being rushed about anything, it's debating what speed is appropriate for a particular road. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
redbig   10 #117 Posted March 28, 2019 Seems the car geeks think they can drive better than anyone else and the limits don't apply to them. Usually the worst drivers, tailgating etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WiseOwl182   10 #118 Posted March 28, 2019 7 hours ago, redbig said: Seems the car geeks think they can drive better than anyone else and the limits don't apply to them. Usually the worst drivers, tailgating etc Define car geek? I'm no petrol head but that speed limit is artificially low. Most drivers can see that.  For what it's worth, I've driven, in total, around 170,000 miles in my life (I'm not even that old yet). That's equivalent to driving around the Earth's circumference 7 times. I've had zero at fault accidents, zero speeding tickets, and zero points on my licence for any other reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Crissie   18 #119 Posted March 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:  For what it's worth, I've driven, in total, around 170,000 miles in my life (I'm not even that old yet). That's equivalent to driving around the Earth's circumference 7 times. I've had zero at fault accidents, zero speeding tickets, and zero points on my licence for any other reason.  But there are plenty of drivers around who don't have your observation and anticipation skills, and maybe even luck. I see so much anger, aggression and discourtesy on the roads today, maybe that's why many places have far lower speed limits today than when I was young - it helps to protect people from today's intolerant attitudes. If we could drive / cycle / walk with a little more consideration, a little less rage, and a bit less of the need for speed, maybe there'd be fewer accidents / incidents, and we could earn a justification for raising the limits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Brooker11   10 #120 Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Crissie said: But there are plenty of drivers around who don't have your observation and anticipation skills, and maybe even luck. I see so much anger, aggression and discourtesy on the roads today, maybe that's why many places have far lower speed limits today than when I was young - it helps to protect people from today's intolerant attitudes. If we could drive / cycle / walk with a little more consideration, a little less rage, and a bit less of the need for speed, maybe there'd be fewer accidents / incidents, and we could earn a justification for raising the limits. How do speed cameras catch those bad traits in a driver, surely they're not just going for easy targets, its about safety isn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...