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8 hours ago, Brooker11 said:

Spare capacity in case of breakdown?? Are you for real, the parkway is an absolute joke as major entry route to a city of Sheffields size.

 

 

No different to other cities. Leeds, Manchester, Newcastle all have convoluted routes into the city centre, and I would say the parkway is a better route than the options into the cities above.

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On ‎18‎/‎03‎/‎2019 at 21:58, crookes sid said:

Is it time to increase the speed limit on Sheffield Parkway to 60  mph and increase the speed limit on Penistone Road to 40 mph?

Drivers seem to ignore the current limits on both these roads and the authorities appear to have little interest in enforcing them.

I agree many people speed on Penistone Rd, but increasing the speed limit is a bad idea for a few reasons.

The most obvious question is which section would be increased ?

Most reasonable people (excluding Petrolheads, obviously) would say the section around Albert Rd should remain at 30mph, it`s busy and that junction is dangerous, hasn`t there been at least one death there ? Loads of people coming out of Albert Rd run that light, in fact my view is that set of lights needs a camera on it to prosecute he miscreants.

Similarly the junction round Hillfoot bridge is very busy and on red much of the time.

The section from Bamforth St on is even busier with loads of side roads and people crossing, similarly the junction with Bradfield Rd is appalling for Red Light Runners.

Thus we`d be left with a relatively short section from Hillfoot Bridge to Bamforth St, and it seems a bit pointless really, it would just increase the chances of people accidentally speeding when the limit dropped back to 30. As a general rule I don`t like to see roads with the speed limit changing up and down often, it`s just confusing and increases the chances of accidentally speeding.

 

On ‎19‎/‎03‎/‎2019 at 12:30, Planner1 said:

 

 

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5 hours ago, Justin Smith said:

I agree many people speed on Penistone Rd, but increasing the speed limit is a bad idea for a few reasons.

The most obvious question is which section would be increased ?

Most reasonable people (excluding Petrolheads, obviously) would say the section around Albert Rd should remain at 30mph, it`s busy and that junction is dangerous, hasn`t there been at least one death there ? Loads of people coming out of Albert Rd run that light, in fact my view is that set of lights needs a camera on it to prosecute he miscreants.

Similarly the junction round Hillfoot bridge is very busy and on red much of the time.

The section from Bamforth St on is even busier with loads of side roads and people crossing, similarly the junction with Bradfield Rd is appalling for Red Light Runners.

Thus we`d be left with a relatively short section from Hillfoot Bridge to Bamforth St, and it seems a bit pointless really, it would just increase the chances of people accidentally speeding when the limit dropped back to 30. As a general rule I don`t like to see roads with the speed limit changing up and down often, it`s just confusing and increases the chances of accidentally speeding.

 

 

Personally I think ALL traffic lights should be fitted with red light cameras and the penalty increased to 6 points + fine. No offer of an awareness course etc. 

 

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20 hours ago, rudds1 said:

What are they doing to improve capacity round 34/33 

Looking to build a new/improved link road, with a link across to Rotherham, which drivers could use without having to go through a motorway junction. 

 

They are at the outline line business case stage, which means they examine all the available options and come up with a preferred option, do preliminary designs, cost it up and identify the potential benefits ( mainly time savings for motorists) to see what the benefit / cost ratio is. If it looks like a good scheme, funding will be requested from the government. 

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20 hours ago, Brooker11 said:

Spare capacity in case of breakdown?? Are you for real, the parkway is an absolute joke as major entry route to a city of Sheffields size.

 

 

The Parkway is fine for the vast majority of the day. It gets busy at peak times and queues develop at the junctions at the ends. Exactly the same as happens on every similar road in cities across the world. 

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On 24/03/2019 at 23:06, Weredoomed said:

"We can't make road X a dual carriageway, we'd have to compulsory purchase some properties."

Which communities do you have in mind to devastate?

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4 hours ago, Planner1 said:

Looking to build a new/improved link road, with a link across to Rotherham, which drivers could use without having to go through a motorway junction. 

 

They are at the outline line business case stage, which means they examine all the available options and come up with a preferred option, do preliminary designs, cost it up and identify the potential benefits ( mainly time savings for motorists) to see what the benefit / cost ratio is. If it looks like a good scheme, funding will be requested from the government. 

Was SCC involved in the total debacle that was the "smart" motorway from J31 North, its so far resulted in fatalities, bad accidents (one on Friday shut the whole stretch for hours) and today was totally congested due to the breakdown of one vehicle, congestion doesn't seem to have improved either - waste of money.

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3 minutes ago, Brooker11 said:

Was SCC involved in the total debacle that was the "smart" motorway from J31 North, its so far resulted in fatalities, bad accidents (one on Friday shut the whole stretch for hours) and today was totally congested due to the breakdown of one vehicle, congestion doesn't seem to have improved either - waste of money.

That would be the Highways Agency.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/highways-england/about

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6 hours ago, Brooker11 said:

Was SCC involved in the total debacle that was the "smart" motorway from J31 North, its so far resulted in fatalities, bad accidents (one on Friday shut the whole stretch for hours) and today was totally congested due to the breakdown of one vehicle, congestion doesn't seem to have improved either - waste of money.

I don’t think you can pin that on SCC. 

 

As for fatalities on smart m/w’s, I fear that we need to say it as it is:

- m/w’s with hard shoulders see fatalities.   The most dangerous lane of them all is the hard shoulder and there are ways to stay safe on them. 

- one death on the smart motorway (September) was reported to have happened 16 minutes after breaking down (presumably registered on CCTV). The unfortunate person was killed by her own car (or debris from her car(?)) when someone smashed into her car.

Whatever the actual circumstances of this particular incident or the pro’s and con’s of smart motorways, the learning point from it centres on the question where to stand, then, when out of a broken down vehicle?   If we are to learn anything from such deaths on either type of motorway, surely the safest place is to be the other side of the barrier but sone distance upstream from the vehicle, not next to it or downstream from it. 

 

 

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9 hours ago, DT Ralge said:

I don’t think you can pin that on SCC. 

 

As for fatalities on smart m/w’s, I fear that we need to say it as it is:

- m/w’s with hard shoulders see fatalities.   The most dangerous lane of them all is the hard shoulder and there are ways to stay safe on them. 

- one death on the smart motorway (September) was reported to have happened 16 minutes after breaking down (presumably registered on CCTV). The unfortunate person was killed by her own car (or debris from her car(?)) when someone smashed into her car.

Whatever the actual circumstances of this particular incident or the pro’s and con’s of smart motorways, the learning point from it centres on the question where to stand, then, when out of a broken down vehicle?   If we are to learn anything from such deaths on either type of motorway, surely the safest place is to be the other side of the barrier but sone distance upstream from the vehicle, not next to it or downstream from it. 

 

 

In an ideal world yes, you can't choose where to break down unfortunately, there was another accident in the last few month where a van hit a broken down car and then veered across all three lanes, it will be interesting to see the circumstances of last Fridays accident and why one car breaking down (reported yesterday evening) could cause such congestion at peak times.

 

Total waste of good revenue whoever it comes from.

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7 hours ago, Brooker11 said:

In an ideal world yes, you can't choose where to break down unfortunately, there was another accident in the last few month where a van hit a broken down car and then veered across all three lanes, it will be interesting to see the circumstances of last Fridays accident and why one car breaking down (reported yesterday evening) could cause such congestion at peak times.

 

Total waste of good revenue whoever it comes from.

Taking on advice on where to stand when broken down in any type of m/w is practical, hardly “ideal world”.

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2 minutes ago, DT Ralge said:

Taking on advice on where to stand when broken down in any type of m/w is practical, hardly “ideal world”.

People react differently in the circumstances, I would imaging its a fairly traumatic experience.

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