Consequences of Brexit [part 7] Read first post before posting

[woodview 10]

6 minutes ago, I1L2T3 said:

If you look at the government’s impact assessments actually it equates to exactly that. There no part of our lives that would not be impacted in some way. In some respects quite severely.

 

 

There is a significant difference between Impacted and Crippled though isn't there.

[Car Boot 10]

35 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Of course they were. It was a poll for leavers. Even then, leavers couldn’t even get 40% of the electorate in their own poll!

The June 2016 referendum was a poll for Remainers, by Remainers. 

 

Remainers decided to hold the vote.

Remainers decided on the wording of the question.

Remainers sent out a £9.3 million leaflet to influence the vote. 

Remainers solemnly informed the electorate that they would implement the result of the vote. 

Remainers carried out no planning for the event of a Leave vote.

 

Remainers couldn't convince the majority of voters that it was best to Remain in the EU, and instead threatened them with what might happen if they voted to Leave. Even then they failed to win their own poll!

Edited March 24, 2019 by Car Boot

[woodview 10]

4 minutes ago, tzijlstra said:

With the enormous support for Remain in recent marches and the appalling turnout for Nige Farage's tour... seems to me public opinion has shifted significantly. Not going back to the people for a second referendum is just short of treason.

That march os very impressive and does show a very strong feeling amongst those people. Whether that is reflexted in the electorate as a whole is of course debatable. I think 'treason' is best left out of it tbh, it's spouted by some Leavers too, silly in these circumstances.

[Car Boot 10]

5 minutes ago, tzijlstra said:

With the enormous support for Remain in recent marches and the appalling turnout for Nige Farage's tour... seems to me public opinion has shifted significantly. Not going back to the people for a second referendum is just short of treason.

The 'enormous support' in recent marches reveals a shocking lack of diversity and democracy among those who attend.

 

Yesterday's march was mainly attended by the well lunched ranks of the affluent white middle class, demanding that the votes of poorer people be ignored. The privilege on display was appalling, and the sooner these greedy, selfish people are stripped of their economic advantages the better.

[I1L2T3 10]

26 minutes ago, woodview said:

There is a significant difference between Impacted and Crippled though isn't there.

We would be crippled. It would be catastrophic. 

 

There you go.

[melthebell 863]

https://www.ft.com/content/016171be-4a74-11e9-8b7f-d49067e0f50d?fbclid=IwAR0aUwYZF9_bCQueQPz_eI-MGRe_uSaAJjRPIpvRvfm1W2Id4lk4pKyjhHQ

 

More "project fear"

 

the amount of financial services lost to Europe after brexit

 

thats weird i still have my original FT article open and can read it, but when i click my links they say i need to be a subscriber Oo

 

  

    Financial services companies have committed to move about £1tn of assets out of the UK into Europe as the industry triggers its worst-case contingency plans with no Brexit deal in sight, according to consultancy EY.

The estimate by EY — which mainly covers client assets and cash moved out of the UK by banks and fund managers as well as the transfer of balance sheets as operations are relocated — has increased by £200bn since the last survey in January.

Banks and investors are now being forced to finalise plans only days from the Brexit deadline, with London’s future trading relationship with the EU still in question after Theresa May failed for a second time to secure parliamentary approval for her deal last week. She now faces having to ask Brussels for an extension to Brexit, causing added uncertainty for businesses in the UK.

 

 

    The number of jobs likely to move to the continent has remained steady at about 7,000, according to the EY study, which tracks the public declarations of 222 UK-based financial services firms on their intentions to restructure.

About 2,000 new Europe-based roles have already been created since the June 2016 referendum, the consultancy said.

“The relocation of 7,000 high-paid finance jobs will inevitably hit the UK tax base,” said Omar Ali, EY’s head of financial services. “Even using a conservative estimate . . . the direct loss to the Exchequer from employment taxes would be around £600m. In reality, the average salary and therefore tax loss is likely to be much higher.”

 

 

 

Edited March 24, 2019 by melthebell

[I1L2T3 10]

18 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

The 'enormous support' in recent marches reveals a shocking lack of diversity and democracy among those who attend.

 

Yesterday's march was mainly attended by the well lunched ranks of the affluent white middle class, demanding that the votes of poorer people be ignored. The privilege on display was appalling, and the sooner these greedy, selfish people are stripped of their economic advantages the better.

Nope. We want everyone to have another say, including the less well off.

 

The less well off can vote the same way again as per their democratic right

Edited March 24, 2019 by I1L2T3

[Litotes 63]

In fact the best way to make sure that there isn't a brexit elite of wealthy right wingers dictating what happens is to go to the country.

Only then will the electorate be allowed to make an informed decision - we now have a much clearer idea of the impact of voting either way - the only democratic way forwards is to take control back from parliament through a second vote.

[tzijlstra 11]

56 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

The 'enormous support' in recent marches reveals a shocking lack of diversity and democracy among those who attend.

 

Yesterday's march was mainly attended by the well lunched ranks of the affluent white middle class, demanding that the votes of poorer people be ignored. The privilege on display was appalling, and the sooner these greedy, selfish people are stripped of their economic advantages the better.

The simple fact that you still think that the 'affluent white middle class' want to 'ignore' the 'poorer people' is indicative of your prehistoric faux-socialist views. Or should that be 'of your poorly veiled right wing propaganda' views?

[Obelix 11]

20 hours ago, apelike said:

Good God how many more times, it was a non binding vote with a small majority that does not say much for parliament.

 

 

So it was just like the referendum then?

[lottiecass 17]

38 minutes ago, Litotes said:

In fact the best way to make sure that there isn't a brexit elite of wealthy right wingers dictating what happens is to go to the country.

Only then will the electorate be allowed to make an informed decision - we now have a much clearer idea of the impact of voting either way - the only democratic way forwards is to take control back from parliament through a second vote.

The only democratic way forward is to leave the eu, sod second votes. Its odd to me how you think democracy works.

[Litotes 63]

2 minutes ago, lottiecass said:

The only democratic way forward is to leave the eu, sod second votes. Its odd to me how you think democracy works.

So now the electorate are changing their minds you feel threatened and want to stop them having a voice? Is that right?

Is that how democracy works in your view?

1 hour ago, Car Boot said:

Yesterday's march was mainly attended by the well lunched ranks of the affluent white middle class, demanding that the votes of poorer people be ignored. The privilege on display was appalling, and the sooner these greedy, selfish people are stripped of their economic advantages the better.

You were there? You read about it in your newspaper? - oh I forgot, they didn't deem it worthy of headlining! Talk about spin!!!

Yet more unfounded pseudo-facts from the Beleavers.

 

And the mixed of ethnicities, of old and young, of nationalities, of leave and remainers, counts for nothing in your right-wing elitist world inhabited by the likes of Farage, Rees-Mogg and BoJo?

I guess you are what you eat...