Consequences of Brexit [part 7] Read first post before posting

[Top Cats Hat 10]

Corbyn voted for Article 50.

 

How on earth can anyone claim that he rejected the referendum vote? 🙄

Edited August 9, 2019 by Top Cats Hat

[geared 302]

Are Brexiteers entirely stupid or just wilfully ignorant?

They won't shut up about 'respecting democracy' but if they can find some loophole to pass Brexit without a democratic vote in the house of commons they're all for it.

 

Lets not forget Parliament has voted several times against a no deal, but since they were not legally binding votes they don't count.

However the non-legally binding referendum vote, that definitely counts.

[Magilla 510]

7 minutes ago, geared said:

Are Brexiteers entirely stupid or just wilfully ignorant?

Both!

 

7 minutes ago, geared said:

They won't shut up about 'respecting democracy' but if they can find some loophole to pass Brexit without a democratic vote in the house of commons they're all for it.

 

Lets not forget Parliament has voted several times against a no deal, but since they were not legally binding votes they don't count.

However the non-legally binding referendum vote, that definitely counts.

Indeed, and the "will of the people" guff, I mean... if it's really the will of the people, how come (approx) two thirds of the "people" didn't vote for it?

 

[Top Cats Hat 10]

5 minutes ago, Magilla said:

Indeed, and the "will of the people" guff, I mean... if it's really the will of the people, how come (approx) two thirds of the "people" didn't vote for it?

And of course, only 25% of the population and 36% of the electorate did vote for it.

[Magilla 510]

2 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

And of course, only 25% of the population and 36% of the electorate did vote for it.

As soon as you hear it, you can be assured the person saying it is either a liar or a simpleton.

[Halibut 12]

On 15/03/2019 at 17:10, Penistone999 said:

The positive for me is we are leaving . That is a positive,  simple as that.

That's a completely pathetic attempt to defend the indefensible. No logic, no reason. Well done you.

[L00b 441]

1 hour ago, geared said:

Are Brexiteers entirely stupid or just wilfully ignorant?

They won't shut up about 'respecting democracy' but if they can find some loophole to pass Brexit without a democratic vote in the house of commons they're all for it.

 

Lets not forget Parliament has voted several times against a no deal, but since they were not legally binding votes they don't count.

However the non-legally binding referendum vote, that definitely counts.

Depends which Brexiteers you're asking about.

 

Those in charge are neither stupid nor wilfully ignorant: they're self-interested and, in some cases that we known of, like Farage and Rees-Mogg, also self-invested.

 

For the rest of the Brexiteers, it doesn't matter what they are. Only their number and vocality count, for neutralising the remain side/efforts and cowing the undecideds.

 

Your political system has shown itself gravely unfit for purpose, out of this crisis. The Brexiteers' capacity to continue exploiting it for their own ends, notwithstanding their minority count in the HoC, simply proves it. I'll grant you that Corbyn's leadership and de facto uselesness as political opposition has been material to some extent, but that is still more a symptom of systemic failure, than a cause: a cohesive political opposition to the Tories would have minced them long ago.

 

So talks of votes in Parliament, binding or not, are pretty much redundant at this 11th hour stage of Brexit proceedings. Talks of "democratic mandate" for Brexit (and any particular flavour of it) and propagandists variants like "will of the people" always were populist expedients fed to the easily-led...

 

...which, in the UK, is a lot of people indeed. You can blame media and educational deficit (at least as much in a "world knowledge" sense, than in a "book knowledge" sense).

[Magilla 510]

Starting to see more and more of this sort of thing on various forums I visit:

 

"I voted Leave in 2016 but bitterly regret doing so. I too want to apologise to Remain voters. I had no idea our votes would be hijacked by right wing loonies to spout racist bile and to a path of a catastrophic no deal Brexit. This isn’t what we voted for. We expected to leave but stay in a close relationship with the EU through a beneficial deal"

 

At least some leavers aren't complete cowards.

[gomgeg 10]

You've got to laugh at the unemployed remoaners, having a go at somebody who doesn't spend all day on forums.

Perhaps he's got family, friends and a job, and hasn't got too much time on his hands for making up fairy tales.

[Pettytom 1]

5 minutes ago, gomgeg said:

You've got to laugh at the unemployed remoaners, having a go at somebody who doesn't spend all day on forums.

Perhaps he's got family, friends and a job, and hasn't got too much time on his hands for making up fairy tales.

Some of us have jobs that allow us a bit of freedom.

 

Dear Old Penny spends his days chatting up the lads at Deepcar  tip. Plenty of time for him to give us his considered opinion.

 

PS. You spelt “remainer” incorrectly.  Unless you were using that childish, made up word on purpose.

[Baron99 775]

1 hour ago, Magilla said:

Starting to see more and more of this sort of thing on various forums I visit:

 

"I voted Leave in 2016 but bitterly regret doing so. I too want to apologise to Remain voters. I had no idea our votes would be hijacked by right wing loonies to spout racist bile and to a path of a catastrophic no deal Brexit. This isn’t what we voted for. We expected to leave but stay in a close relationship with the EU through a beneficial deal"

 

At least some leavers aren't complete cowards.

Unattributed fake news. 

 

Where did you find it?  Facebook? 

[gomgeg 10]

1 hour ago, Baron99 said:

Unattributed fake news. 

 

Where did you find it?  Facebook? 

There used to be a bloke on here who said one of his relatives had voted for brexit then regretted it. Then a few weeks later told us the same story but then it was a different relative.

When  it was pointed out to him that he'd already used that anecdote he said he was always getting his cousin mixed up with his nephew.

Easy mistake to make I suppose, I'm always getting my cousin and nephew mixed up.

Mind you I've no excuse, her moustache is a lot bigger than his.