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3 hours ago, Lockdoctor said:

There are technology solutions which will mean there is no need for checks on the Irish border when the UK leave the customs union.

No-one has such a system in place anywhere in the world, it doesn't exist.

 

There is nothing to stop a van loaded with contraband crossing the border under every solution proposed by the UK so far.

 

Trading partners, particularly the US, won't fall for it. Even Trump acknowledged to the Irish PM that they'll be needing a wall!

 

3 hours ago, Lockdoctor said:

We are in the year 2019 and not 1919.   A free trade agreement between the UK and EU will mean there is only a potential issue regarding Custom Duties from goods coming to the UK from outside of the EU and then heading across the Irish border which can be dealt with in a technological way.

So how does that van get stopped? How does it even get flagged up to be stopped?

 

It doesn't!  At best, they could read the number plate, but would have no idea of the vans contents.

 

It's essentially carte-blanche for smugglers.

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19 minutes ago, Magilla said:

So how does that van get stopped? How does it even get flagged up to be stopped?

I guarantee that the first Irish citizen to be arrested or detained for refusing to have their vehicle searched will have tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people on the streets in border areas.

 

If the Irish know about anything, it is standing up for themselves.

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Oh Dear, the value of Sterling is dropping like a stone, do the negotiators not realise that Britain is a spent force. with no Empire to prop us up the E.U. rescued this nation from becoming a third world country. Remember "the poor man of Europe" ? Brought down in the 70's and 80's by nefarious industrial activity, we needed a saviour. No Deal would leave us exposed and so many nations still have an axe to grind from our occupation, offers of cooperation will be subject to reparations for past misrule. The expression 'Kick him while he's down' springs to mind and the special relationship with a certain nation would not be enough to avoid insult as demonstrated at the Women's World Football Cup-of-tea gesture. Promises of spending sprees would have to be broken if and when the money runs out, no one would offer loans in those circumstances and we really would hit rock bottom. We could lose Scotland and Scottish oil and this situation in NI could be ungovernable. On the other hand we could soar.

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33 minutes ago, minertone said:

On the other hand we could soar.

Maybe you could show us some evidence for that being anything other than spin and wishful thinking. EVERY credible forecaster worldwide, has said that this is going to be a disaster.

 

And this is not just an economic matter but a political one too. A recent interview with a ‘China expert’ on the current protests in Hong Kong, said that the 50 year ‘two systems’ agreement from 1997 is being ripped up very publicly by the government in Beijing, largely because the Chinese government sees Britain as a spent force which will complain about the treatment of demonstrators but in reality be in no position to do anything about it.

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15 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

If the Irish know about anything, it is standing up for themselves.

To the extent that they manufacture the world's entire supply of viagra :D

 

(...besides a majority of the world's supply of botox)

 

I guess gammons will hold flaccid manhoods and wrinkly WAGs as still more of the price worth paying for Brexit :twisted: 

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9 hours ago, minertone said:

On the other hand we could soar.

During the build up to the referendum, even the leave campaign said that leaving without a deal would be a total catastrophe.

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34 minutes ago, ads36 said:

During the build up to the referendum, even the leave campaign said that leaving without a deal would be a total catastrophe.

We are going to get a great deal - easiest in history etc etc etc

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/29/what-vote-leave-leaders-really-said-about-no-deal-brexit

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50 minutes ago, ads36 said:

During the build up to the referendum, even the leave campaign said that leaving without a deal would be a total catastrophe.

Ah, well, about that...

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/BorisJohnson_MP/status/1155808844024602624

 

Have we reached peak Brexit yet? I think not :D

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1 hour ago, ads36 said:

During the build up to the referendum, even the leave campaign said that leaving without a deal would be a total catastrophe.

nah they said it'll be great for us etc etc, then later on they have started saying it wont be as bad as people make out, the total catastrophes still to come

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5 minutes ago, taxman said:

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They didn't put that on the side of a bus.

We heard about a Brexit bus on the news yesterday, as it happens.

 

Comedy gold :D

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from the Romans, Angles,Saxons,Vikings, then the French (under William, the horse-chestnutter), our destiny has been shaped by Europe.

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