Consequences of Brexit [part 7] Read first post before posting

[Pettytom 1]

1 hour ago, L00b said:

So, Boris is the new leader of the Conservative party, and so likely to be your Prime Minister tomorrow.

 

Does that count as a "consequence of Brexit"?

 

The times we live in! 

It’s ok though. That guarantees Brexit at the end of October, do or die.

 

 

(Unless Boris isn’t to be trusted, of course)

[Top Cats Hat 10]

It will be interesting to see the reaction of those Brexiteers who said that all it would take to get a good Brexit deal was to shout louder at the EU negotiators.

 

Barnier has already said ‘no’ to any further negotiation of the withdrawal agreement and the team that replaces him will by all accounts be just as determined to protect the interests of EU members. It will be interesting who Johnson will put in his negotiating team. Talk is that Dominic Raab is a shoe in to lead that team but the problem with that is that Raab has already failed and is seen as a complete clown by the EU.

 

The fact of life that Brexiteers can’t seem to get their head around is that the best deal is the one we have now, and never in a million years will the EU let us cherry pick the best parts of that deal as a non member however loud you shout.

[L00b 441]

Well, the local business event I was attending has ended early, it’s 33C in the shade with a very light breeze, so I’m sneaking a pint of Battin Blanche at a terrasse to toast this momentous occasion in British political life, before heading back to the office.

 

Some consequences are worth it 😉

[Top Cats Hat 10]

This could bode the end of the Conservative Party as we know it.

 

If Labour takes a Remain position in September there are still Tory moderates who wouldn’t vote for a Corbyn led Labour Party under any circumstances and will vote for the new Swinson Lib Dems (she is further to the right than Ed Davey was). The Right wing Tories will vote for the Brexit Party in droves when it becomes clear that Johnson hasn’t a plan, and the Tories could lose a hundred odd seats.

 

So September will bring us.

 

1. A Labour majority (most likely) or

 

2. A Labour/Lib Dem revoke Article 50 coalition or

 

3. A Conservative/Brexit Party coalition (least likely)

 

 

[melthebell 862]

Labour majority? In yer dreams

[tinfoilhat 11]

Labour/SNP coalition followed by Scottish independence and depending on the flavour of brexit, NI soon afterwards.

[Magilla 510]

57 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

Labour/SNP coalition followed by Scottish independence and depending on the flavour of brexit, NI soon afterwards.

Arlene seems to have got confused:

 

 

Judging by the comments, people seem to have spotted the flaw in her plan:

 

"Better get a canoe for that river he’s going to sell you down"

 

[Lockdoctor 10]

4 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

That will be a ‘yes’ then? 😂

Technically it is a 'yes' because the 2016 EU referendum result showed our country up for being a nation that is no longer democratic.  If Remain had won the 2016 EU referendum, David Cameron would still be our country's Prime Minister. David Cameron stated he wasn't going to seek a third term as Prime Minister which means there would have been a Tory leadership election before the 2020 General Election.   Theresa May would have resigned as Home Secretary because of the Windrush scandal which would have ruled her out as replacing David Cameron.  The person to replace David Cameron most certainly would have been a Remainer which would have ruled out Boris.  Jeremy Hunt most likely would have replaced David Cameron as Tory Party leader, if the UK democratic people had voted to remain in the EU.

[Pettytom 1]

3 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

Technically it is a 'yes' because the 2016 EU referendum result showed our country up for being a nation that is no longer democratic.  If Remain had won the 2016 EU referendum, David Cameron would still be our country's Prime Minister. David Cameron stated he wasn't going to seek a third term as Prime Minister which means there would have been a Tory leadership election before the 2020 General Election.   Theresa May would have resigned as Home Secretary because of the Windrush scandal which would have ruled her out as replacing David Cameron.  The person to replace David Cameron most certainly would have been a Remainer which would have ruled out Boris.  Jeremy Hunt most likely would have replaced David Cameron as Tory Party leader, if the UK democratic people had voted to remain in the EU.

Oh, do stop whining.

 

We’ve had a General Election since the referendum. The House represents the will of the people. That’s how democracy works.

 

In any case, it is the loony leavers who have stopped Brexit. Blame them.

 

Boris, on the other hand is the fault of some old ladies with blue rinses and some 16 year olds who shouldn’t have had a vote.

Edited July 23, 2019 by Pettytom

[Lockdoctor 10]

1 minute ago, Pettytom said:

Oh, do stop whining.

 

We’ve had a General Election since the referendum. The House represents the will of the people. That’s how democracy works.

 

In any case, it is the loony leavers who have stopped Brexit. Blame them.

That is hilarious.  I am the voice of reason who respects the democratic EU referendum  vote.  You're embarrassing yourself by referring to the winning side as loony leavers.  The only people to blame for the current situation are Remain voters who unlike me don't respect democracy.

[Pettytom 1]

Just now, Lockdoctor said:

That is hilarious.  I am the voice of reason who respects the democratic EU referendum  vote.  You're embarrassing yourself by referring to the winning side as loony leavers.  The only people to blame for the current situation are Remain voters who unlike me don't respect democracy.

Simply not true. If the loony leaver MPs had voted to leave, we’d be out

 

We also have a parliamentary democracy. Deal with it.

[Top Cats Hat 10]

10 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

the 2016 EU referendum result showed our country up for being a nation that is no longer democratic.

I totally agree!

 

We had a non-binding, advisory only referendum to see if there was a majority to leave the EU. Neither option got even 40% and there was only 1% between the two options. Yet despite this inconclusive result, a spineless government (and spineless opposition) decided to go with this option.

 

That, in a nutshell, is why we are in this mess we find ourselves today.