Consequences of Brexit [part 7] Read first post before posting

[bendix 10]

9 hours ago, Car Boot said:

Unfortunately the EU has bought and paid for the majority of our establishment elite and they are desperate to keep us in - at any cost. This establishment elite has been prepared from the beginning to put on a public show of utter shambolic incompetence in order to ensure we Remain in their beloved bosses club.

 

It's all been carefully planned and calculated from the moment that they knew they were going to lose the vote. Nothing has happened by chance. They were never going to allow us to Leave.

 

 

Do y ou have any idea how crazy this makes you sound?  Spouting conspiracy theory stuff no doubt feels good, but do you have a shred of evidence to back up your claim that the EU has bought and paid for our so-called establishment elite?

 

 

[L00b 441]

10 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Peston was saying that conditions the EU may impose on us to extend Article 50 could be either a second referendum or the government is forced to consult the opposition to come up with a 'Brexit of national unity' ie a customs union.

 

Does anyone else see the irony that the vote to 'take back control' may end up with our immediate destiny being wholly decided by the EU?

It must have been very difficult, being a eurosceptic over the last 24 months. 

 

What was initially seen as heralding the fall of the EU, a fresh attack on a "corrupt and inept institution", has yielded the exact opposite outcomes than those which a euroskeptic would have expected.

 

When they expected that Merkel and Macron would wade in and take the lead, use smaller EU countries as body armour, and bully and threaten the UK, instead the leaders of the big countries have stepped back, given the spotlight to the small countries like Ireland, and used the weight of the EU to protect them. 

Brexit was going to prove that the EU was nothing more than a step towards a new German federal superstate. Instead it's proven the opposite.

 

When they expected that slow, incompetent EU bureaucrats would be chasing their tails while the savvy UK politicians dictated the playbook, instead the EU bureaucrats have been completely prepared from day one, have stood serenely and patiently waiting for the UK to get their s...tuff together, and have never once been thrown a curveball or been knocked off guard by the UK.

Brexit was going to prove that the EU doesn't work, that it serves no purpose except to give big fat pensions to some foreign civil servants. Instead it's proven the opposite.

 

It's quite an amazing phenomenon of Brexit. Not only has the factual part of an orderly exit from the EU been proven impossible, but even the fantasy stuff, the Brexit-related "wins" that people voted on and that people attached to their own personal visions of Brexit, have been proven wrong.

 

There is not a single angle from which Brexit is not a complete and utter failure to deliver.

[I1L2T3 10]

Indeed Loob.

 

Incredible solidarity and a pathological commitment to the integrity of the bloc and the inviolable principles that underpin the single market too

 

Exactly as predicted by remainers on here for years now

 

Leave leaders should hang their heads in shame. 

[bendix 10]

34 minutes ago, L00b said:

It must have been very difficult, being a eurosceptic over the last 24 months. 

 

What was initially seen as heralding the fall of the EU, a fresh attack on a "corrupt and inept institution", has yielded the exact opposite outcomes than those which a euroskeptic would have expected.

 

When they expected that Merkel and Macron would wade in and take the lead, use smaller EU countries as body armour, and bully and threaten the UK, instead the leaders of the big countries have stepped back, given the spotlight to the small countries like Ireland, and used the weight of the EU to protect them. 

Brexit was going to prove that the EU was nothing more than a step towards a new German federal superstate. Instead it's proven the opposite.

 

When they expected that slow, incompetent EU bureaucrats would be chasing their tails while the savvy UK politicians dictated the playbook, instead the EU bureaucrats have been completely prepared from day one, have stood serenely and patiently waiting for the UK to get their s...tuff together, and have never once been thrown a curveball or been knocked off guard by the UK.

Brexit was going to prove that the EU doesn't work, that it serves no purpose except to give big fat pensions to some foreign civil servants. Instead it's proven the opposite.

 

It's quite an amazing phenomenon of Brexit. Not only has the factual part of an orderly exit from the EU been proven impossible, but even the fantasy stuff, the Brexit-related "wins" that people voted on and that people attached to their own personal visions of Brexit, have been proven wrong.

 

There is not a single angle from which Brexit is not a complete and utter failure to deliver.

Excellent post.  

 

But you ignored Car Boot's insightful comments about how the EU has bought and paid for our establishment elite, except for those members of the establishment elite who are pro Brexit of course.

 

Please try harder.

[L00b 441]

45 minutes ago, bendix said:

But you ignored Car Boot's insightful comments about how the EU has bought and paid for our establishment elite, except for those members of the establishment elite who are pro Brexit of course.

Sometimes, some of the waste-of-bandwidth-and-server-storage guff posted on here is so dumb, that it really isn't worth acknowledging in the first place, never mind quoting or answering.

[bendix 10]

The leader of the newly formed Brexit Party, backed by Farage, is a lady called Catherine Blaikrock.  Or at least she was the leader until today.  She has just resigned after it was revealed that her social media profile is awash with racist, islamaphobic nonsense, and numerous retweets of people like neo-Nazi Mark Collett and, of course, Yaxley Lennon.

 

Well, who would have thought it possible?

 

They simply can't help themselves.

[Bob Arctor 11]

6 hours ago, L00b said:

It must have been very difficult, being a eurosceptic over the last 24 months. 

 

What was initially seen as heralding the fall of the EU, a fresh attack on a "corrupt and inept institution", has yielded the exact opposite outcomes than those which a euroskeptic would have expected.

 

When they expected that Merkel and Macron would wade in and take the lead, use smaller EU countries as body armour, and bully and threaten the UK, instead the leaders of the big countries have stepped back, given the spotlight to the small countries like Ireland, and used the weight of the EU to protect them. 

Brexit was going to prove that the EU was nothing more than a step towards a new German federal superstate. Instead it's proven the opposite.

 

When they expected that slow, incompetent EU bureaucrats would be chasing their tails while the savvy UK politicians dictated the playbook, instead the EU bureaucrats have been completely prepared from day one, have stood serenely and patiently waiting for the UK to get their s...tuff together, and have never once been thrown a curveball or been knocked off guard by the UK.

Brexit was going to prove that the EU doesn't work, that it serves no purpose except to give big fat pensions to some foreign civil servants. Instead it's proven the opposite.

 

It's quite an amazing phenomenon of Brexit. Not only has the factual part of an orderly exit from the EU been proven impossible, but even the fantasy stuff, the Brexit-related "wins" that people voted on and that people attached to their own personal visions of Brexit, have been proven wrong.

 

There is not a single angle from which Brexit is not a complete and utter failure to deliver.

I think Brexit has shown once and for all that Britain is a little country, governed by little people. It's the last slap round the face to wake idiots from their post-colonial daydream that Britain is Important. The rest of the world saw this decades ago of course. How tired they must be of the British, and especially the English.

[Top Cats Hat 10]

26 minutes ago, bendix said:

The leader of the newly formed Brexit Party, backed by Farage, is a lady called Catherine Blaikrock.  Or at least she was the leader until today.  She has just resigned after it was revealed that her social media profile is awash with racist, islamaphobic nonsense, and numerous retweets of people like neo-Nazi Mark Collett and, of course, Yaxley Lennon.

 

Well, who would have thought it possible?

 

They simply can't help themselves.

Oh the irony!

 

Wasn't the Brexit Party formed because the rump of UKIP had been taken over by a bunch of cranks, racists and neo-Nazis? 😂

[hobinfoot 25]

14 minutes ago, Bob Arctor said:

I think Brexit has shown once and for all that Britain is a little country, governed by little people. It's the last slap round the face to wake idiots from their post-colonial daydream that Britain is Important. The rest of the world saw this decades ago of course. How tired they must be of the British, and especially the English.

What is showing a hatred for Britain going to help with this discussion?

[Bob Arctor 11]

3 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

What is showing a hatred for Britain going to help with this discussion?

It's not hatred, it's realism. We are in this mess because some people still believed that 27 countries would bow down because Britain is somehow special, despite all the evidence that it's an average - below average place. There are still people who think the world wars and the 1966 World Cup mean something. It's an embarrassment. The sooner this belief is punctured, the better.

[Top Cats Hat 10]

4 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

What is showing a hatred for Britain going to help with this discussion?

Hold on a minute.

 

Aren't those advocating the destruction of the UK economy and possible hardship for generations to come showing hatred for Britain, not those pointing out the dangers of this course?

[I1L2T3 10]

Brexit leaders are the enemies of the British people. Make no mistake about that.