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34 minutes ago, geared said:

Vauxhall (PSA) have announced that jobs are definitely on the line depending on the outcome of Brexit.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-48790657

 

Car manufacturing in the UK has taken an absolute pasting recently, several plants are to be closed.

Not every company has made a comment about Brexit in regards to this, but it seems PSA are not mincing their words.

 

If we leave without a deal people will lose their jobs, no question about it.

"commitment to frictionless trade after Brexit" even Mays deal doesn't deliver that, it specifically agree's to respect the four freedoms, so frictionless trade is out unless there's FoM for people too.

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40 minutes ago, melthebell said:

LOl

tell me again why brexit is a good idea?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48807161

 

while weve been dividing our country, getting rid of brexit mps and prime ministers for the last 3 years the EU have concluded the second of two massive trade deals. who needs who more? us or the EU?

Only took TWENTY YEARS!

 

Trade deals are quick to make right?

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On 27/06/2019 at 17:15, geared said:

Not every company has made a comment about Brexit in regards to this, but it seems PSA are not mincing their words.

I think that we will see a lot more of this in the coming months.

 

Many firms have been refusing to publicly blame Brexit for bad economic news but doing so privately. As things get worse we will see diplomacy going out of the window and firms being a lot more honest about the real reasons for factory closures and relocations.

 

And no doubt the cranks and crackpots will continue to shout Project Fear!

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Positive: Brexit would confirm that we are still a democratic nation. 

 

If we remain or have a second referendum, then we are ALL in big trouble going forwards.

 

No democracy=bend over and spread em (everyone included)

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5 hours ago, crookesjoe said:

Positive: Brexit would confirm that we are still a democratic nation. 

 

If we remain or have a second referendum, then we are ALL in big trouble going forwards.

 

No democracy=bend over and spread em (everyone included)

Please explain how a second referendum would not be democratic? How can one vote be democratic and not another? 

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36 minutes ago, Chez2 said:

Please explain how a second referendum would not be democratic? How can one vote be democratic and not another? 

Unbelievable.

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9 hours ago, crookesjoe said:

If we remain or have a second referendum, then we are ALL in big trouble going forwards.

What a stupid thing to say?

 

Why shouldn’t the people have a say in the most important decision since World War Two?

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The 'leave' vote was a vote for lies, myths of Shangri-la, and undeliverable unicorns.

 

We know have a much better idea of what leaving looks like.

 

(Years/decades of bickering, and reduced international investment and influence)

 

We've spent over 3 years arguing amongst ourselves, and we can't even agree what kind of stepping stone we want to transition out of the EU. Never mind the long term relationship.

 

3 years ago, the nightmare of no-deal was dismissed as 'project fear'. 

 

We didn't vote for this. 

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28 minutes ago, ads36 said:

We didn't vote for this. 

No deal wasn’t even mentioned in 2015/16 let alone discussed. 

 

Anyone trying to claim that there is a democratic mandate for it is an idiot.

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16 hours ago, crookesjoe said:

Positive: Brexit would confirm that we are still a democratic nation. 

 

If we remain or have a second referendum, then we are ALL in big trouble going forwards.

 

No democracy=bend over and spread em (everyone included)

Quite a few Brexit supporting MP's would be happy to shut down Parliament to prevent a vote and see us crash out with no deal or even a sitting Parliament.

 

It always impresses me how the Brexit camp can bleat on about democracy while at the same time being happy to literally shut down Parliament just to prevent a democratic vote.

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