Consequences of Brexit [part 7] Read first post before posting

[Car Boot 10]

10 hours ago, L00b said:

I'm not talking about "young people unemployment in the EU", nor about the EU27.

Quite right too.

 

Youth unemployment is an absolute disgrace in the EU.

 

Best not to mention it at all as it only harms any economic reason for Remaining a member state.

[L00b 441]

7 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

Quite right too.

 

Youth unemployment is an absolute disgrace in the EU.

 

Best not to mention it at all as it only harms any economic reason for Remaining a member state.

You'll have to educate me about how 'disgraceful youth unemployment in the EU' affects the UK's membership thereof in any capacity, because despite the well-researched and -reasoned arguments which you provide, unfortunately I'm just not seeing it yet 

Edited June 24, 2019 by L00b

[taxman 12]

On 22/06/2019 at 12:34, Car Boot said:

There is not record employment for young people in most of the EU, as unemployment in most member states is mainly at double-digit rates (more than 20% in France and above 30% in Greece, Spain and Italy).

 

The youth of the UK should thank the heavens that soon they will not be living in the workers paradise which ensures that people like them do not have employment.

You sound more like an apologist for the Tory Party every day.

[andyofborg 11]

1 hour ago, taxman said:

You sound more like an apologist for the Tory Party every day.

Putin likes Boris, so he has to be

[L00b 441]

Another day, another raft of consequences of the 2016 referendum and its handling since (not a consequence of Brexit, since Brexit has yet to happen).

 

A notable one is, no U.K. universities included in the EU’s new “European Universities” initiative:

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/EU_Commission/status/1143817844540489728

Edited June 27, 2019 by L00b

[Chez2 10]

5 minutes ago, L00b said:

Another day, another raft of consequences of the 2016 referendum and its handling since (not a consequence of Brexit, since Brexit has yet to happen).

 

A notable one is, no U.K. universities included in the EU’s new “European Universities” initiative:

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/EU_Commission/status/1143817844540489728

My friend was going to send one of her daughters to a European Uni for a film / drama degree. When the UK voted Brexit  the fees. would be too expensive. When she explained the difference in fees between the cost when UK were in the EU and when we left people didn't seems to have even considered this. How can Brexit give our kids more change she asked. Nobody who voted Brexit could giver her a decent answer. 

[I1L2T3 10]

On 24/06/2019 at 18:50, taxman said:

You sound more like an apologist for the Tory Party every day.

That is because it is an apologist for the Tory party.

 

No genuine lefty would use such cliche-ridden language 

[melthebell 862]

32 minutes ago, Chez2 said:

Nobody who voted Brexit could giver her a decent answer. 

Sounds about right, for the whole thing

[I1L2T3 10]

32 minutes ago, Chez2 said:

My friend was going to send one of her daughters to a European Uni for a film / drama degree. When the UK voted Brexit  the fees. would be too expensive. When she explained the difference in fees between the cost when UK were in the EU and when we left people didn't seems to have even considered this. How can Brexit give our kids more change she asked. Nobody who voted Brexit could giver her a decent answer. 

Two of my kids have been in the uni system in the EU. Fees are either free or very low compared to the U.K., depending where you go. The most we have paid was 3,500 euro for a year. Even accommodation is way cheaper. For a uni down south (in London) we were quoted £6,700 for a 38 week academic year. One of my kids is paying under 500 euro a month for their own pad.

 

Now get this, my Leave-voting sister and her husband have a daughter approaching 18 who now desperately  wants to go to another EU country to study. Guess what.....Brexit. The sad thing is they don’t feel sorry and haven’t changed their views on Brexit even though it is going to hit them hard financially and limits the options for their kids.

 

Its insanity

[L00b 441]

51 minutes ago, Chez2 said:

(...) When she explained the difference in fees between the cost when UK were in the EU and when we left people didn't seems to have even considered this. (...)

There's a lot that people who voted to leave, don't seem to have considered. From the everyday basic (freedom of movement fors hols/breaks, flights, roaming charges, ...) to the highly complex (incapacity to negotiate deals whilst still an EU member, WTO tarriffs and quotas, IP rights, ...), and regardless of whether they are employees, retired, professionals, politicians, etc.

 

By the evidence of things, it doesn't look like many have done much more 'considering' over the past 3 years either, explainers and preparatory notices notwithstanding.

 

They voted for an idea, a notion, something taken on faith. Millions still have their nose in the dogmatic handle bars, helping to dictate the political agenda. Equally, millions opposed to that dogma have failed to organise and proven completely ineffectual in bringing about a new political balance.

 

So you'll all continue to get the governance you deserve, and it's only fitting that you should all experience the consequences of your collective actions, tbh.

 

Edited June 27, 2019 by L00b

[Magilla 510]

Boris' plan for the NI border, discussed on R4....

 

Apparently, *that* van will have to go to a large town and fill in some forms before it can cross the border.

 

No technical solution whatsoever, merely trust that everyone will play by the rules

 

Didn't see that one coming!

[geared 303]

Vauxhall (PSA) have announced that jobs are definitely on the line depending on the outcome of Brexit.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-48790657

 

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The next generation of the Vauxhall Astra will be built at its Ellesmere Port car plant if a satisfactory Brexit deal is reached, its owners have said.

Sources say the minimum the company is looking for is a commitment to frictionless trade after Brexit, and no-deal is not an option.

Car manufacturing in the UK has taken an absolute pasting recently, several plants are to be closed.

Not every company has made a comment about Brexit in regards to this, but it seems PSA are not mincing their words.

 

If we leave without a deal people will lose their jobs, no question about it.