Consequences of Brexit [part 7] Read first post before posting

[Car Boot 10]

1 hour ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Yet you think that we should rely on them to help the UK economy if we leave the EU?

 

I suspect that won’t go very well.

 

The US ambassador was on Andrew Marr this morning saying that any post-Brexit trade deal will almost certainly include making us accept chlorinated chicken and give US companies a slice of the NHS.

Is this the secretive and classified TTIP trade agreement between the EU and the US, which aimed to reduce regulatory barriers to trade for big business on things such as food safety laws, environmental legislation, banking regulations and the sovereign powers of EU member states?

 

Or is it the new secretive and classified trade negotiations between the EU and the US which aim to bring in the majority of the TTIP regulatory measures under another name as well as increasing costs for healthcare and medicines (and profits for pharmaceuticals) to the benefit of large corporations at our expense?

[altus 538]

4 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

Is this the secretive and classified TTIP trade agreement between the EU and the US, which aimed to reduce regulatory barriers to trade for big business on things such as food safety laws, environmental legislation, banking regulations and the sovereign powers of EU member states?

 

Or is it the new secretive and classified trade negotiations between the EU and the US which aim to bring in the majority of the TTIP regulatory measures under another name as well as increasing costs for healthcare and medicines (and profits for pharmaceuticals) to the benefit of large corporations at our expense?

You mean the TTIP that our government was enthusiastic to sign up to that was blocked by another EU country.

[Car Boot 10]

16 minutes ago, altus said:

You mean the TTIP that our government was enthusiastic to sign up to that was blocked by another EU country.

I mean the EU TTIP regulatory trade negotiations (and the new secretive regulatory trade negotiations which include most of the TTIP controversial measures) which the EU and the US are desperate to impose upon ordinary people and EU member states for the benefit of multinational corporations. 

 

The EU has been extremely enthusiastic in supporting TTIP even if it means weakening food safety regulations, deregulation of public services to increase competition from the private sector and increasing protections for intellectual property, which undermines affordable healthcare and medicines and moves us closer to the US system of healthcare.

 

This is what the EU wants. This is what every Remainer voted for. 

Edited June 2, 2019 by Car Boot

[tinfoilhat 11]

1 minute ago, Car Boot said:

I mean the EU TTIP regulatory trade negotiations (and the new secretive regulatory trade negotiations which include most of the TTIP controversial measures) which the EU and the US are desperate to impose upon ordinary people and EU member states for the benefit of multinational corporations. 

 

The EU has been extremely enthusiastic in supporting TTIP even if it means weakening food safety regulations, deregulation of public services to increase competition from the private sector and increasing protections for intellectual property, which undermines affordable healthcare and medicines and moves us closer to the US system of healthcare.

 

This is what the EU wants. This is what every Remainer voted for. 

Didn't see it on the ballot paper to be fair. 

[Car Boot 10]

Just now, tinfoilhat said:

Didn't see it on the ballot paper to be fair. 

Of course not.

 

The EU is a highly secretive organisation working to benefit big business while useful idiots claim it exists to protect the rights of workers.

[Cyclone 10]

2 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

Of course not.

 

The EU is a highly secretive organisation working to benefit big business while useful idiots claim it exists to protect the rights of workers.

Surely no one is so stupid as to believe this alternate, mirror image of reality.

41 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

Is this the secretive and classified TTIP trade agreement between the EU and the US, which aimed to reduce regulatory barriers to trade for big business on things such as food safety laws, environmental legislation, banking regulations and the sovereign powers of EU member states?

 

Or is it the new secretive and classified trade negotiations between the EU and the US which aim to bring in the majority of the TTIP regulatory measures under another name as well as increasing costs for healthcare and medicines (and profits for pharmaceuticals) to the benefit of large corporations at our expense?

So secret and classified that you know all about it (apart from all the bits you're getting wrong).

[Car Boot 10]

10 minutes ago, Cyclone said:

Surely no one is so stupid as to believe this alternate, mirror image of reality.

So secret and classified that you know all about it (apart from all the bits you're getting wrong).

The EU, along with Donald Trump, aims to give multinational corporations the same rights as nation states. The EU has been a passionate advocate of TTIP, and now it's successor. 

 

The EU - for big business, by big business.

 

Remainers need to own this, they voted Remain to increase the power of multinationals.

Edited June 2, 2019 by Car Boot

[Magilla 510]

10 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

Remainers need to own this, they voted Remain to increase the power of multinationals.

LOL, yeah... right, despite the biggest proponents of it being the current UK government...the one overseeing Brexit

 

Brexit as sold during the referendum was all about the "free market", it is entirely about increasing the power of multinationals and simply ensures the UK gets TTIP on steroids...

 

Another theory bites the dust.. ho hummm....

 

Edited June 2, 2019 by Magilla

[tinfoilhat 11]

25 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

Of course not.

 

The EU is a highly secretive organisation working to benefit big business while useful idiots claim it exists to protect the rights of workers.

But we ran the referendum. If it was up to the EU we wouldn't have had one at all, it was only Cameron trying to appease right wing zealots that we had one.

[Top Cats Hat 10]

The Brexit project has two main aims.

 

1. To weaken workers rights, labour organisations, health & safety and business regulation and to roll back decades of progress for the benefit of the likes of Rees-Mogg, Johnson and Farage.

 

2. To weaken the EU as a trading and strategic bloc to benefit both the Russian state and the US, hence the great effort expended by bad actors working on behalf of both.

 

To look at Trump as some kind of ally is bonkers! 😳

[Car Boot 10]

The EU was an enthusiastic supporter of TTIP, and now it's successor, dubbed 'TTIP Light'. This secret trade negotiation between the US and the EU has two main aims:

 

1. To strengthen the legal rights of multinational corporations while weakening food safety laws, environmental legislation, banking regulations and the sovereign powers of EU member states.

 

2. To weaken the public sector and strengthen the private sector. TTIP Light aims to increase deregulation, privatisation and bring corporate courts into being, for the benefit of big business.

 

The EU views Donald Trump as an ally in ensuring that the rights of transnational corporations are placed before people and the planet. 

 

Love Europe. Hate the EU.

Edited June 2, 2019 by Car Boot

[I1L2T3 10]

35 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

The EU was an enthusiastic supporter of TTIP, and now it's successor, dubbed 'TTIP Light'. This secret trade negotiation between the US and the EU has two main aims:

 

1. To strengthen the legal rights of multinational corporations while weakening food safety laws, environmental legislation, banking regulations and the sovereign powers of EU member states.

 

2. To weaken the public sector and strengthen the private sector. TTIP Light aims to increase deregulation, privatisation and bring corporate courts into being, for the benefit of big business.

 

The EU views Donald Trump as an ally in ensuring that the rights of transnational corporations are placed before people and the planet. 

 

Love Europe. Hate the EU.

You realise that a post-Brexit deal with the US is going to be TTIP on speed, with the US calling every single shot.

 

You are in the absurd position of effectively arguing against yourself