Jump to content


Consequences of Brexit [part 7] Read first post before posting

mort

 Let me make this perfectly clear - any personal attacks will get you a suspension. The moderating team is not going to continually issue warnings. If you cannot remain civil and post within forum rules then do not bother to contribute. 

Message added by mort

Recommended Posts

It's not EU legislation that confuses me, it is the idea that Teresa May will abolish private education, nationalise key industries and end austerity once the UK leaves the EU.

 

If she does, she will have more than Jacob Rees-Mogg to worry about! 😳

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
59 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

Using your parlance, a genuine positive reason for Leaving the EU (and all of its institutions) would be to enable a future Socialist government to abolish all public schools in the UK. Public schools, such as Eton and Harrow, are a major tool of the class system, ensuring that the country Remains under the control of a small, wealthy elite.

 

Unfortunately the European Convention on Human Rights (Article 2 of the First Protocol: The right to education) gives the wealthy and the privileged the right to a private education and so deliberately prevents the creation of a non-class based egalitarian society run for the benefit of the many, not the few.

Bull.

 

Nobody in the EU forced the U.K. to impose £9,500 a year uni fees

 

In fact in many EU countries higher education is still free, or at very low cost.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, L00b said:

Ouch. If Theresa doesn't pull something legislatively magic out of her handbag, then her and Parliament's choice will be 2nd referendum within the extension (...if asked and then if secured) or Brexit without a deal in 11 days' time.

I think we all know her handbag is good and empty when it comes to this deal, the EU were telling us months ago it was set and they weren't prepared to change it.

 

Now even her own Parliament are saying to stop messing around and do something else.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 minutes ago, geared said:

Looks like a third vote won't be allowed.

The Daily Mail will be foaming at the mouth. His name will be like mud in te gutter press tomorrow.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Mister M said:

The Daily Mail will be foaming at the mouth. His name will be like mud in te gutter press tomorrow.

The vote was never certain anyway, the Chancellor had already said it wouldn't go ahead without enough support.

At least now someone has stood up and told them to stop messing around.

 

This should have been put to bed in December when the initial vote was supposed to happen, now it's dragged on till mid-March and we've no time left for anything else.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Car Boot said:

Using your parlance, a genuine positive reason for Leaving the EU (and all of its institutions) would be to enable a future Socialist government to abolish all public schools in the UK. Public schools, such as Eton and Harrow, are a major tool of the class system, ensuring that the country Remains under the control of a small, wealthy elite.

 

Unfortunately the European Convention on Human Rights (Article 2 of the First Protocol: The right to education) gives the wealthy and the privileged the right to a private education and so deliberately prevents the creation of a non-class based egalitarian society run for the benefit of the many, not the few.

Wow! Where do you get this nonsense from?

Quote

No person shall be denied the right to education. In the exercise of any functions which it assumes in relation to education and to teaching, the State shall respect the right of parents to ensure such education and teaching in conformity with their own religious and philosophical convictions.

Where does it say that it gives the 'wealthy and privileged' the right to private education??? Just to be clear - there are several EU nations without private education, all education is state-run, the Netherlands being one of them.

 

Yet again you are completely failing to do at least some basic homework before you spout your nonsense. As asked of you before - do you know where the most egalitarian societies are? In the EU. Prove me wrong and we'll talk again.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
26 minutes ago, I1L2T3 said:

Bull.

 

Nobody in the EU forced the U.K. to impose £9,500 a year uni fees

 

In fact in many EU countries higher education is still free, or at very low cost.

Something which many UK students are availing themselves of, but will no longer be able to when we leave.

 

Another self-inflicted punch in the face.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 minutes ago, geared said:

Looks like a third vote won't be allowed.

To be fair, every time the subject of a second referendum is mentioned, Teresa May sacks the idea off by repeating the lie that 'the people have spoken'.

 

If she doesn't  think that it is appropriate to revisit a discredited vote with a marginal result from nearly three years ago, she can hardly justify revisiting a legitimate overwhelming defeat from a week and a bit ago.

 

This withdrawal agreement was signed off last November and nothing substantial has been changed since then or is likely to be changed in the near future. To keep putting it to Parliament again and again in the hope that one day it will be supported is not really the way to go about this.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Car Boot said:

We're discussing the present, how the EU prevents the abolition of the archaic class-based private education system because it skills the future leaders of capitalism. 

Actually, the EU states that it is a human right to a private education.

 

This is utterly wrong and perpetuates class domination and control.

Stop talking rubbish please. There is no EU legislation that protects the very existence of private schools. 

 

Oh look at Finland. Their government doesn’t allow private schools to exist. If there is political will within the country to abolish private education, then it can happen without EU intervention. 

 

So once again, please talking rubbish.

 

Thank you. 

Edited by ez8004

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Car Boot said:

Using your parlance, a genuine positive reason for Leaving the EU (and all of its institutions) would be to enable a future Socialist government to abolish all public schools in the UK. Public schools, such as Eton and Harrow, are a major tool of the class system, ensuring that the country Remains under the control of a small, wealthy elite.

 

Unfortunately the European Convention on Human Rights (Article 2 of the First Protocol: The right to education) gives the wealthy and the privileged the right to a private education and so deliberately prevents the creation of a non-class based egalitarian society run for the benefit of the many, not the few.

Finland - EU member - nothing like UK Private/Public Schools are allowed:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Finland

 

"Schools up to the university level are almost exclusively funded and administered by the municipalities of Finland (local government). There are few private schools. The founding of a new private comprehensive school requires a decision by the Council of State. When founded, private schools are given a state grant comparable to that given to a municipal school of the same size. However, even in private schools, the use of tuition fees is strictly prohibited, and selective admission is prohibited, as well: private schools must admit all its pupils on the same basis as the corresponding municipal school. In addition, private schools are required to give their students all the education and social benefits that are offered to the students of municipal schools. Because of this, existing private schools are mostly faith-based or Steiner schools, which are comprehensive by definition. "

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 minutes ago, tzijlstra said:

Wow! Where do you get this nonsense from?

 

a single word at the end of the article lol, it mentioned private

Edited by melthebell

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

just found this interesting video, not sure if the kitkat tapes have been mentioned on here yet?

 

 

Government to fund the EU army but hiding it under a brexit?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.