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49 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

I just hope that the EU now say you've had your chance no more extensions just leave then we can deal with the consequences.

Very unlikely, given that this will cause harm to the EU as well as the UK and even less likely since last weekend, where the march in London and Revoke Article 50 petition show that the campaign to remain in the EU is gaining strength and finally making its voice heard after three years of hearing nothing but shouty Brexit supporters.

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31 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

 after three years of hearing nothing but shouty Brexit supporters.

Had to chuckle!

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2 hours ago, Penistone999 said:

All it means is we are STILL heading for the default position of No Deal. That is the only thing that IS set in law.

Even the Solicitor General is saying that no Brexit is becoming more likely.

 

Just keep repeating the same nonsense and burying your head in the sand.  It was the law that we were leaving today at 11pm.  How is that working out?

 

Parliament is taking control and the government is beginning to take a back seat.  The problem with the PM is that she does not see that she is a servant to the House.  The sooner she sees that the better.  The will of the House will not be denied by the likes of her.

 

The DUP is coming to the idea that Remain is the preferred option. 

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May has no authority.

 

Time for a long extension and an election.

 

My compromise as a remainer is not revoking A50

21 minutes ago, ez8004 said:

Even the Solicitor General is saying that no Brexit is becoming more likely.

 

Just keep repeating the same nonsense and burying your head in the sand.  It was the law that we were leaving today at 11pm.  How is that working out?

 

Parliament is taking control and the government is beginning to take a back seat.  The problem with the PM is that she does not see that she is a servant to the House.  The sooner she sees that the better.  The will of the House will not be denied by the likes of her.

 

The DUP is coming to the idea that Remain is the preferred option. 

Remain suits the DUP because it is the best option for preservation of the union, and is practically all they care about at this stage

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20 minutes ago, ez8004 said:

Even the Solicitor General is saying that no Brexit is becoming more likely.

 

Just keep repeating the same nonsense and burying your head in the sand.  It was the law that we were leaving today at 11pm.  How is that working out?

 

Parliament is taking control and the government is beginning to take a back seat.  The problem with the PM is that she does not see that she is a servant to the House.  The sooner she sees that the better.  The will of the House will not be denied by the likes of her.

 

The DUP is coming to the idea that Remain is the preferred option. 

That would be interesting. Many in the ERG look to the DUP on this issue, but if the DUP say that remain is the preferred option, I think some of the ERG would spontaneously combust with rage!

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4 minutes ago, Mister M said:

That would be interesting. Many in the ERG look to the DUP on this issue, but if the DUP say that remain is the preferred option, I think some of the ERG would spontaneously combust with rage!

Hopefully, lol

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So what will we see on Monday?

 

Bercow will decide which of the eight 'indicative' motions come back for debate.  A second referendum or a customs union will definitely be back as the two closest to getting a majority. No deal definitely won't!

 

So if Brexit isn't sacked off, could we be looking at a compromise 'stay in a customs union' deal with a public referendum on the proposal vs remain?

 

The EU would agree to that in a heartbeat.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

So what will we see on Monday?

 

Bercow will decide which of the eight 'indicative' motions come back for debate.  A second referendum or a customs union will definitely be back as the two closest to getting a majority. No deal definitely won't!

 

So if Brexit isn't sacked off, could we be looking at a compromise 'stay in a customs union' deal with a public referendum on the proposal vs remain?

 

The EU would agree to that in a heartbeat.

 

 

There are plenty of remainers who would be kind of crudgingly happy to leave the political union but still have a customs union but the rabid leavers insist Brexit means leaving both, despite only one of those options being on the non binding referendum ballot paper.

 

May and her swivvle eyed loons have precipitated this calamity by insisting on red lines and a brexit that would make everybody worse off

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16 minutes ago, Mister M said:

That would be interesting. Many in the ERG look to the DUP on this issue, but if the DUP say that remain is the preferred option, I think some of the ERG would spontaneously combust with rage!

DUP have the union as priority one and Brexit as priority two

 

ERG have Brexit as priority one and the union as priority two, three, four or what ever

 

Those two very different stances just had a 300mph head-on collision

10 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

So what will we see on Monday?

 

Bercow will decide which of the eight 'indicative' motions come back for debate.  A second referendum or a customs union will definitely be back as the two closest to getting a majority. No deal definitely won't!

 

So if Brexit isn't sacked off, could we be looking at a compromise 'stay in a customs union' deal with a public referendum on the proposal vs remain?

 

The EU would agree to that in a heartbeat.

 

 

Yes that option is entirely within Barnier’s negotiating remit

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25 minutes ago, Mister M said:

That would be interesting. Many in the ERG look to the DUP on this issue, but if the DUP say that remain is the preferred option, I think some of the ERG would spontaneously combust with rage!

I think that particular love affair may be over.

 

Rees-Mogg voted FOR May's deal today!

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17 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

So what will we see on Monday?

 

Bercow will decide which of the eight 'indicative' motions come back for debate.  A second referendum or a customs union will definitely be back as the two closest to getting a majority. No deal definitely won't!

 

So if Brexit isn't sacked off, could we be looking at a compromise 'stay in a customs union' deal with a public referendum on the proposal vs remain?

 

The EU would agree to that in a heartbeat.

 

 

They would. And CU got the highest vote. The 'problem' with that one is that it had complete Labour support, with a smattering of others, and nearly full tory opposition. Be interesting to see if it can be forced through.

Also was it 'a' customs union, or 'the' customs union? Can't remember if it also included single market?

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3 minutes ago, woodview said:

They would. And CU got the highest vote. The 'problem' with that one is that it had complete Labour support, with a smattering of others, and nearly full tory opposition. Be interesting to see if it can be forced through.

Also was it 'a' customs union, or 'the' customs union? Can't remember if it also included single market?

Actually the 'second referendum' option got the highest vote (268).

 

Now that May's deal is effectively dead, there are Remainer Conservative MPs who may support Ken Clarke's customs union option if they are free of the party whip. With hard Brexit/no deal options off the table the crackpot wing of the Tory party have effectively been frozen out of the process.

 

By the way, Rees-Mogg has knackered his chances of becoming party leader as he was always going to have to rely on the Baker-Francois part of the ERG who presumably now regard him as a traitor for bottling it and supporting May at the last minute.

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