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1 hour ago, Top Cats Hat said:

This will be the same Telegraph that lied to its readers last week, about support for Johnson prorouging Parliament?

The government have told Gina MIller that shutting down parliament to force through a no deal brexit would be illegal. Details at the bottom of this Beeb article.

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8 hours ago, retep said:

Why do you ( and some posh blokes) want to destroy our economy.

 

I know that you rarely make sense, but the notion of no deal is so clearly self harming that I’ve no idea why anybody would support it.

 

Still. Stupid is as stupid does, I suppose 

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14 hours ago, retep said:

LOL, a lesson in how to highlight your gullibility.....

 

It's a symbolic act... only comes into effect on "exit day" when it would have automatically happened anyway! :hihi:

 

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1 hour ago, Magilla said:

LOL, a lesson in how to highlight your gullibility.....

 

It's a symbolic act... only comes into effect on "exit day" when it would have automatically happened anyway! :hihi:

 

Shows how to highlight your desperation more like,

 

The repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 will take effect when Britain formally leaves the EU on October 31.

Speaking after signing the legislation that will crystallise in law the upcoming repeal of the ECA, the Secretary of State for Exiting the EU Steve Barclay said:

This is a clear signal to the people of this country that there is no turning back - we are leaving the EU as promised on October 31, whatever the circumstances - delivering on the instructions given to us in 2016.

The votes of 17.4 million people deciding to leave the EU is the greatest democratic mandate ever given to any UK Government. Politicians cannot choose which public votes they wish to respect. Parliament has already voted to leave on 31 October. The signing of this legislation ensures that the EU Withdrawal Act will repeal the European Communities Act 1972 on exit day.

The ECA saw countless EU regulations flowing directly into UK law for decades, and any government serious about leaving on October 31 should show their commitment to repealing it.

That is what we are doing by setting in motion that repeal. This is a landmark moment in taking back control of our laws from Brussels.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/brexit-secretary-signs-order-to-scrap-1972-brussels-act-ending-all-eu-law-in-the-uk

 

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31 minutes ago, retep said:

Shows how to highlight your desperation more like,

 

The repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 will take effect when Britain formally leaves the EU on October 31.

Speaking after signing the legislation that will crystallise in law the upcoming repeal of the ECA, the Secretary of State for Exiting the EU Steve Barclay said:

This is a clear signal to the people of this country that there is no turning back - we are leaving the EU as promised on October 31, whatever the circumstances - delivering on the instructions given to us in 2016.

The votes of 17.4 million people deciding to leave the EU is the greatest democratic mandate ever given to any UK Government. Politicians cannot choose which public votes they wish to respect. Parliament has already voted to leave on 31 October. The signing of this legislation ensures that the EU Withdrawal Act will repeal the European Communities Act 1972 on exit day.

The ECA saw countless EU regulations flowing directly into UK law for decades, and any government serious about leaving on October 31 should show their commitment to repealing it.

That is what we are doing by setting in motion that repeal. This is a landmark moment in taking back control of our laws from Brussels.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/brexit-secretary-signs-order-to-scrap-1972-brussels-act-ending-all-eu-law-in-the-uk

 

It sure only happens on a no deal on 31 October. 

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5 minutes ago, I1L2T3 said:

It sure only happens on a no deal on 31 October. 

Not my understanding of it: it happens regardless of whether the exit is with or without a deal.

 

But it's just another, incremental bracketing effort by the government, nothing which Parliament couldn't overturn by a corresponding vote (...if it wanted to, that is).

 

Moreover, if the UK requested and obtained a further extension, effectively maintaining the UK's EU membership at the UK's request, this order would become ultra vires and so irrelevant.

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Parliament had the chance 3 times to vote for a deal they didn’t take it now they are scrambling about trying to stop no deal brexit. Parliament has no one to blame but themselves if we do leave on the 31st without one.

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1 hour ago, retep said:

Shows how to highlight your desperation more like,

 

The repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 will take effect when Britain formally leaves the EU on October 31.

Speaking after signing the legislation that will crystallise in law the upcoming repeal of the ECA, the Secretary of State for Exiting the EU Steve Barclay said:

This is a clear signal to the people of this country that there is no turning back - we are leaving the EU as promised on October 31, whatever the circumstances - delivering on the instructions given to us in 2016.

The votes of 17.4 million people deciding to leave the EU is the greatest democratic mandate ever given to any UK Government. Politicians cannot choose which public votes they wish to respect. Parliament has already voted to leave on 31 October. The signing of this legislation ensures that the EU Withdrawal Act will repeal the European Communities Act 1972 on exit day.

The ECA saw countless EU regulations flowing directly into UK law for decades, and any government serious about leaving on October 31 should show their commitment to repealing it.

That is what we are doing by setting in motion that repeal. This is a landmark moment in taking back control of our laws from Brussels.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/brexit-secretary-signs-order-to-scrap-1972-brussels-act-ending-all-eu-law-in-the-uk

 

On "exit day", as your link clearly verifies..... it's the same legislation that is already enshrined in section 1 of the European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018:

https://publiclawforeveryone.com/2019/08/18/the-brexit-secretary-says-he-has-set-in-stone-the-repeal-of-the-european-communities-act-1972-but-the-legal-significance-of-this-misleading-claim-is-very-limited/

 

Purely symbolic... as previously stated... it doesn't do anything that wouldn't have happened anyway :roll:

 

Essentially, pointless propaganda...

 

"hook, line and sinker!" :hihi:

 

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35 minutes ago, hobinfoot said:

Parliament had the chance 3 times to vote for a deal they didn’t take it now they are scrambling about trying to stop no deal brexit. Parliament has no one to blame but themselves if we do leave on the 31st without one.

Actually, blame lies fairly and squarely with two successive Conservative governments for trying to push something through Parliament which is clearly bonkers.

 

Let’s not forget that even the softest of soft Brexits would have done damage to our economy. Why do you think MPs should vote for something which does damage to our economy?

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45 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Actually, blame lies fairly and squarely with two successive Conservative governments for trying to push something through Parliament which is clearly bonkers.

 

Let’s not forget that even the softest of soft Brexits would have done damage to our economy. Why do you think MPs should vote for something which does damage to our economy?

Get over it, 31 October goodbye EU, delivered by a PM with the balls to do it.

 

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44 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Actually, blame lies fairly and squarely with two successive Conservative governments for trying to push something through Parliament which is clearly bonkers.

 

Let’s not forget that even the softest of soft Brexits would have done damage to our economy. Why do you think MPs should vote for something which does damage to our economy?

The blame now lays with parliaments failing to vote for the deal negotiated between the EU & UK. I didn’t like everything in the withdrawal agreement but in negotiations you don’t get everything you want but it sticks in my craw when I listen to those who said no to a deal now calling for one before it’s to late.

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1 hour ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Actually, blame lies fairly and squarely with two successive Conservative governments for trying to push something through Parliament which is clearly bonkers.

 

Let’s not forget that even the softest of soft Brexits would have done damage to our economy. Why do you think MPs should vote for something which does damage to our economy?

I disagree, and actually agree with hobinfoot's statement.

 

Parliament, ie its 650 Members collectively, is the depository of the UK's sovereignty and so has the ascendency on the government: the Brexit buck stops with them.

 

If any blame is to be laid at anyone's feet for Brexit past, present and future, there are dozens of responsible parties, from long-term opportunists like Putin and Odey (in their respective and quite distinct spheres of interests) to triggermen for hire like Farage and Johnson...but none ranking so high, as Parliament, and going back years and longer (including eg legislation which messed with public education to the point of dumbing so much of the population down, legislation impoverishing vast swathes of the UK's underclass, and so much more).

 

It's been a long time since any MP voted consistently in the best interests of the country, rather than those of their political (and post-political) careers. That, paired with the FPTP, is why you are where you are.

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