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1 hour ago, Magilla said:

It's a fairly accurate description, which word would you prefer?

 

We're not on the news... :hihi:

 

Offense for offense sake.. says more about you.... not much else tbh :roll:

 

 

 

Johnson doing his Trump impression:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49348072

 

Utterly ridiculous.. it'll appeal to the woof woofs tho... sadly :(

 

I stated my alternative and suitable wording earlier. 

 

Thanks for reminder that im not watching the news. My point is that if you accept the media wouldn't use that analogy for trade negotiations then chances are there is a reason why. Which is that is inappropriate and other perfectly other words are suitable to convey the point. 

 

So it's not offense for the sake of it and it's perfectly reasonable to suggest alternative wording. 

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2 hours ago, melthebell said:

De Pfeffel is in full on Trump mode.

 

The first rule of Brexit, is to blame everyone else.

 

▪️Blame Remainers.

▪️Blame the EU.

▪️Blame Parliament.

▪️Blame John Bercow

Edited by Mister Gee

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59 minutes ago, Delayed said:

My point is that if you accept the media wouldn't use that analogy for trade negotiations then chances are there is a reason why. Which is that is inappropriate and other perfectly other words are suitable to convey the point. 

If by ‘media’ you mean television, then there are two reasons why they wouldn’t use the word ‘rape’ to describe a predatory US trade negotiation. One is that they have certain words which they try to avoid using as they tend to generate complaints to the regulator and two, they are bound by charter to be politically neutral which prevents them making statements which are seen as being ‘partial’, in this case about Brexit.

 

As has been pointed out before, this is an internet forum which does not operate under the same constraints as other media.

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11 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

If by ‘media’ you mean television, then there are two reasons why they wouldn’t use the word ‘rape’ to describe a predatory US trade negotiation. One is that they have certain words which they try to avoid using as they tend to generate complaints to the regulator and two, they are bound by charter to be politically neutral which prevents them making statements which are seen as being ‘partial’, in this case about Brexit.

 

As has been pointed out before, this is an internet forum which does not operate under the same constraints as other media.

My point still stands that more appropriate language would be better suited. As you know you can't say whatever you like on the internet and forums. 

 

Move on with the discussion please.

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2 hours ago, Delayed said:

My point still stands that more appropriate language would be better suited. As you know you can't say whatever you like on the internet and forums. 

Are we agreed then, that the US will take advantage of a weakened UK in any trade negotiations after a no-deal Brexit, whatever people choose to call it? 

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49352250

 

This idea is dead in the water already due to one major fundamental problem? 

 

It's called Jeremy Corbyn.   Who but the desperate would want to align themselves with Corbyn & make him a de facto PM? 

 

There won't be any stomach in the HoC to support his ambitions.  Thank God. 

Edited by Baron99

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13 hours ago, Magilla said:

No chance of US trade deal if Irish accord hit

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49348062

 

Don't anyone be fooled by Pelosi's fake concerns for the future of N. Ireland & the Good Friday Agreement. 

 

All we are seeing here is the UK & N. Ireland be used as collateral damage in a war between the Democrats & Republicans.  Many times in posts on SF people spout that the US only has its interests at heart in any future, post-Brexit agreements with the UK.  if that's the case, then Pelosi's apparently also willing to put US jobs at risk for the sake of a spat with Trump. 

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8 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Are we agreed then, that the US will take advantage of a weakened UK in any trade negotiations after a no-deal Brexit, whatever people choose to call it? 

Well yes but that was never my argument in the first place

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36 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

Don't anyone be fooled by Pelosi's fake concerns for the future of N. Ireland & the Good Friday Agreement. 

 

All we are seeing here is the UK & N. Ireland be used as collateral damage in a war between the Democrats & Republicans.  Many times in posts on SF people spout that the US only has its interests at heart in any future, post-Brexit agreements with the UK.  if that's the case, then Pelosi's apparently also willing to put US jobs at risk for the sake of a spat with Trump. 

A hell of a lot of Americans have Irish heritage and are proud of the fact

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1 hour ago, Baron99 said:

Don't anyone be fooled by Pelosi's fake concerns for the future of N. Ireland & the Good Friday Agreement. 

 

All we are seeing here is the UK & N. Ireland be used as collateral damage in a war between the Democrats & Republicans.  Many times in posts on SF people spout that the US only has its interests at heart in any future, post-Brexit agreements with the UK.  if that's the case, then Pelosi's apparently also willing to put US jobs at risk for the sake of a spat with Trump. 

The issue of Northern Ireland isn't a partisan issue in the US - there's a cross party Friends of Ireland group in Congress. As The Express reported in July

Pete King, the Republican Congressman who co-chairs the Friends of Ireland group, described Boris Johnson’s threats to abandon the backstop as a “needless provocation”.



In a clear signal that his party would, the issue of Ireland at least, have few qualms about throwing down roadblocks in front of Mr Trump, he added: “I would think anyone who has a strong belief in Northern Ireland and the Good Friday agreement the open border would certainly be willing to go against the president.

 

10% of the US population has Irish ancestry. They have presidential elections next year and have already started the campaign processes. Anyone thinking this is just a Democrat vs Republican thing is unaware of the situation in the US.

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5 hours ago, Baron99 said:

Don't anyone be fooled by Pelosi's fake concerns for the future of N. Ireland & the Good Friday Agreement. 

This has nothing to do with Pelosi.

 

The problem Johnson has is that the large Irish American community in the US has as much influence in the Republican Party as it does in the Democrats, so any threat to the Belfast Agreement will be resisted in a bi-partisan way by US representatives.

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