Consequences of Brexit [part 7] Read first post before posting

[Mister Gee 823]

9 minutes ago, L00b said:

Farage is a sock puppet for that new elite, a useful idiot freeloading on their ultra-capitalist wealth.

 

Bannon has his hands up him so far, it tickles his tonsils. And Bannon takes his orders from the Kochs and other assorted megabillionaires in cahoots, whom no one at US or U.K. street level has heard of, and who are the very ultra-capitalists after every last bit of US/U.K./EU27 governments’ spending.

You've got it sussed L00b, you're another fine poster sir.

[tzijlstra 11]

An interesting chat with someone in the 'influencer' sphere in Brussels. He works for insurance firms, looking after their interests in the Europe/Middle East/Africa domain. To you and me he would be a lobbyist. To those with real decision power he is an advisor and finger on the pulse - Several very large investment funds (insurers and pension funds) are actively denying investment in the UK until 'the situation' has been resolved, they don't want Brexit and they are increasingly worried that it might happen. Their clear message - if Brexit happens, we will withdraw our exposure to Britain. In other words - they will pull (even more) capital out of the UK than they already have. One large investor was approached by a large manufacturer in the last year to see if they would invest in electronic car production in the UK and made it very clear they wouldn't. JLR is going into the pockets of its parent company (Tata) instead, but this will cost in terms of other investment and Tata have made it clear that if this doesn't work out, they will pull the plug on JLR.

 

Read into that what you will, this is just circumspect rumour (from a legit source) but it doesn't look good whatever way you look at it. JLR's alread dropped 6000 jobs in the last couple of years. People ignoring it as being the result of Brexit are, frankly, obtuse and wilfully ignorant.

[Longcol 602]

3 hours ago, L00b said:

Farage is a sock puppet for that new elite, a useful idiot freeloading on their ultra-capitalist wealth.

 

Bannon has his hands up him so far, it tickles his tonsils. And Bannon takes his orders from the Kochs and other assorted megabillionaires in cahoots, whom no one at US or U.K. street level has heard of, and who are the very ultra-capitalists after every last bit of US/U.K./EU27 governments’ spending.

Yup - the agenda has never been "sovereignty" - deregulation so hedge funds can make a quick buck, slashing workers rights, environmental standards etc to increase profits is where they are coming from.

[Top Cats Hat 10]

3 hours ago, tzijlstra said:

Read into that what you will, this is just circumspect rumour (from a legit source) but it doesn't look good whatever way you look at it. 

Business likes certainty and doesn’t like uncertainty (unless you are trading in futures or currency in which case you can make money out of both)

 

With all the nonsense that Brexit is causing, it makes total sense to stay well away till they know what’s happening.

 

It’s not the law that international business has to invest in the UK. They have plenty of other options globally so why voluntarily put your money somewhere this uncertain when you can go elsewhere. That’s why the two clowns bidding for leadership of the Conservative Party can bang on as much as they like about how they are going to soften the blow of a no deal exit but at the end of the day it is the rest of the world that decides what happens and there won’t be a thing that Hunt or Johnson can do about it.

[Car Boot 10]

9 hours ago, Longcol said:

Yup - the agenda has never been "sovereignty" - deregulation so hedge funds can make a quick buck, slashing workers rights, environmental standards etc to increase profits is where they are coming from.

Ah.

 

You are talking about Greece.

 

The neoliberal programme of the European troika (the consortium of the European Commission, the European Central Bank and the IMF) which imposed terrible EU inspired austerity on the Greek people.

[andyofborg 11]

8 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

Ah.

 

You are talking about Greece.

 

The neoliberal programme of the European troika (the consortium of the European Commission, the European Central Bank and the IMF) which imposed terrible EU inspired austerity on the Greek people.

No, he's talking about the future you seem to want for England.

 

Anyway, had successive Greek governments taken some action to control their finances then the IMF, EUCB and EC wouldn't have had to do anything.

[melthebell 863]

4 minutes ago, andyofborg said:

No, he's talking about the future you seem to want for England.

 

Anyway, had successive Greek governments taken some action to control their finances then the IMF, EUCB and EC wouldn't have had to do anything.

Yup, soverienty lol

Edited July 7, 2019 by melthebell

[Car Boot 10]

2 minutes ago, andyofborg said:

No, he's talking about the future you seem to want for England.

 

Anyway, had successive Greek governments taken some action to control their finances then the IMF, EUCB and EC wouldn't have had to do anything.

The EU and it's IMF partner have imposed terrible economic austerity on Greece until at least 2060 - in order to save the Euro.

 

The Euro and the EU are not worth saving. The oppressed will rise up against the oppressors. The EU will fall.

[Top Cats Hat 10]

2 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

The Euro and the EU are not worth saving. The oppressed will rise up against the oppressors. The EU will fall.

Led by Farage, Banks, Steve Bannon, Wee Tommy Robinson, Jacob Rees-Mogg and Boris Johnson?

 

Comrade Snowflake is losing the plot!

[Ridgewalk 101]

14 hours ago, I1L2T3 said:

Of course Mel.

 

Because the EU, despite the accusations of being a neoliberal vehicle, is not nearly neoliberal enough for the elites.

 

When Farage talks about elites he is railing at elites(and that is admittedly what they are) who understand about what would happen if the brakes were released.

 

What he wants is to be the elite, and impose on the rest of us a new elite that has zero qualms about the impact of what he wants on ordinary people.

 

No amount of cheeky pints of ale and prolific toking on Bensons can disguise that reality. His job is to screw us over. And leave us in the dust. 

 

Privatise parks and fresh air next. It's the neo libéral way

" sovereignty " 😂

Edited July 7, 2019 by Ridgewalk
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[Longcol 602]

13 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

The EU and it's IMF partner have imposed terrible economic austerity on Greece until at least 2060 - in order to save the Euro.

 

The Euro and the EU are not worth saving. The oppressed will rise up against the oppressors. The EU will fall.

Lol - the massed ranks of Monk Bretton Civil Servants for Marxist / Moggism singing "We'll keep the hedge fund flying here".

[Ridgewalk 101]

26 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Lol - the massed ranks of Monk Bretton Civil Servants for Marxist / Moggism singing "We'll keep the hedge fund flying here".

I was thinking along the same lines, " as soon as this pub closes........we'll raise the banner high"