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Just now, Top Cats Hat said:

As it was two weeks before March 29th. 

Yep, still does not alter the fact though does it, just means the can has been kicked further down the road that's all.

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1 minute ago, apelike said:

Yep, still does not alter the fact though does it, just means the can has been kicked further down the road that's all.

Yes, and it will continue to be kicked down the road until someone has the stones to say enough is enough and cancel the whole thing or put the decision back to the people.

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13 minutes ago, apelike said:

Its up there with the rest so I will dream on in the same way as the remainers do, also not forgetting it is still at this late stage the default position.

Your so called default position has come and gone TWICE.  It's never going to happen.  Just live with it.

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3 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Yes, and it will continue to be kicked down the road until someone has the stones to say enough is enough and cancel the whole thing or put the decision back to the people.

Or go for a hard brexit.. I think we are now back at square one.

 

1 minute ago, ez8004 said:

Your so called default position has come and gone TWICE.  It's never going to happen.  Just live with it.

It has not gone though as it is still the default position even now.

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9 minutes ago, apelike said:

It has not gone though as it is still the default position even now.

As a default position, it was gone a long time ago so you need to get over that. As it stands your, gonna get Mr's May's deal, or revoke, or a possible further referendum (highly likely with a slim possible chance of a further extension). If there is a general election and Labour get into power on a majority (Can't see that happening) Your gonna get a Mr. Corbyn deal, which will be Mr's May's deal in disguise. What you leavers need to do is stop blaming the remainers, and decide what you all want, Iv'e said this before, three of you want this, four of you want the other. One thing I will tell you for free, if any government goes through with anything that destroy's people's livelihoods/safety and wellbeing , then democracy will be well and truly dead.

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A very real chance we'll sleepwalk into no deal unless Corbyn realises that another general election is highly unlikely to happen between now and October - and even if it does the chances of him being elected on a platform of ushering in the socialist millennial is pretty much non existent.

 

So far he's up there with IDS as the most ineffective opposition leader in living memory.

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9 hours ago, apelike said:

Maybe for you and other remainers but not for the majority that want out.

It's a nightmare for everyone, it's just that some of you (and it's a minority even amongst brexiteers) don't realise it.

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10 hours ago, apelike said:

Maybe for you and other remainers but not for the majority that want out.

To think that the majority of people who voted leave did so hoping for a hard Brexit is deluded in the extreme. It's as ridiculous as claiming that all remain voters did so hoping for a hard remain (joining the Euro and Schengen). Literally no-one on either side at the referendum was talking about those options.

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42 minutes ago, stifflersmom said:

To think that the majority of people who voted leave did so hoping for a hard Brexit is deluded in the extreme. 

Although this claim is being made by an increasing number of Leave supporting politicians in recent interviews.  

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Before the vote though they claimed we'd stay in the customs union, we held all the cards, easiest deal in history, £350million/week for the NHS, and so on.  All shown to be lies or impossible.  Nobody even mentioned the Irish border problem, because we were never going to leave the customs union, nobody thought about WTO or mentioned it, because clearly leaving the customs union would be insane...  And then, the EU turned out not to be a pushover and they said we couldn't have our cake and also eat it...  If only someone could have predicted that.

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10 hours ago, Longcol said:

So far he's up there with IDS as the most ineffective opposition leader in living memory.

Harsh! But fair!

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At some point leave voters need to take responsibility for the situation we are in and stop blaming everyone else"

 

That may be a long time coming as the ethos of many leave voters is to blame everyone else (immigrants, banks, politicians, the council) for the situation they find themselves in.

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