Consequences of Brexit [part 7] Read first post before posting

[tinfoilhat 11]

1 minute ago, Penistone999 said:

The damage caused to our country is being caused by a socialist dictatorship in Brussels passing laws and rules we must adhere to . I want a complete split from these people ,and No Deal is how we do it. 

That's a huge lie.

Just now, Penistone999 said:

 

He is not backing her surrender deal because it does NOT get us out of the EU. it keeps us tied to them in many ways . No one should support it. 

So rees mogg isn't a traitor for not voting through a law for us to leave the EU?

 

But angel said he was.

[Penistone999 10]

2 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

But Mays deal was to leave the EU. If your mates in the erg etc had voted for Mays deal, we would be out next week.

But rees mogg is a staunch leaver? He's on your side isn't he? 

No it isnt. It does not cut all ties with the EU .

[ANGELFIRE1 10]

1 minute ago, tinfoilhat said:

But Mays deal was to leave the EU. If your mates in the erg etc had voted for Mays deal, we would be out next week.

But rees mogg is a staunch leaver? He's on your side isn't he? 

Yes, I quite like Mogg the Magnificent. But that does not make his decisions 100% right every single time. Otherwise we would have to call him Jesus I suppose.

 

Angel1.

[retep 68]

1 minute ago, tinfoilhat said:

But Mays deal was to leave the EU. If your mates in the erg etc had voted for Mays deal, we would be out next week.

May's deal was to leave with conditions approved by her mates in the EU.

The UK should have been out as soon as the Withdrawal Bill was made law.

[tinfoilhat 11]

Just now, retep said:

May's deal was to leave with conditions approved by her mates in the EU.

The UK should have been out as soon as the Withdrawal Bill was made law.

But that's not what's happened, just possibly because it's a bit more complicated than that.

[Penistone999 10]

2 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

That's a huge lie.

So rees mogg isn't a traitor for not voting through a law for us to leave the EU?

 

But angel said he was.

Mays "Deal" does NOT give us a complete separation from the EU , thats why he wont vote for it. 

[woodview 10]

51 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

Traitor, " a person who betrays someone or something, such as a friend, cause, or principle. " Just a word like any other, when applied to  some of the anti democratic clowns that inhabit Westminster it is on the money.

 

Angel1.

It's as daft a phrase as ardent Remainers talking about a destroyed economy and country on its knees.

There's s sensible discussion to be had, that is mostly missing in here of late.

[tinfoilhat 11]

2 minutes ago, Penistone999 said:

Mays "Deal" does NOT give us a complete separation from the EU , thats why he wont vote for it. 

But when soubry doesn’t vote for it, she’s a traitor,

1 minute ago, woodview said:

It's as daft a phrase as ardent Remainers talking about a destroyed economy and country on its knees.

There's s sensible discussion to be had, that is mostly missing in here of late.

I know, it’s almost like there isn’t a unified position from the leave camp.

[melthebell 863]

13 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

But when soubry doesn’t vote for it, she’s a traitor,

I know, it’s almost like there isn’t a unified position from the leave camp.

There isn't, never was, that's the problem

[I1L2T3 10]

1 hour ago, woodview said:

No-deal has a big negative impact, government estimates up to 2% off gdp for next 2 years. That means no growth or potential -0.5% . That is certainly not good.

However, it is not 'on our knees, crippled' .Hence the hyperbole comment. Jumping to extremes of descriptions, trying to make a point, is something that has come all too easy for the extremes of both camps.

It is for a lot of people unfortunately. It will impact and change many aspects of daily life for a lot of people.

 

Thats not extreme. That’s telling it how it is.

 

Youve  got a bit of a nerve to suggest it will be fine. It won’t be fine.

 

 

[ez8004 10]

36 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

David Cameron wasn't a past Prime Minister on 23rd June 2016 when the democratic UK people voted to leave the EU.  You are a dishonest person who has no respect for democracy.  Honest people respect democratic decisions regardless whether  the democratic decision made by the majority  is what they personally voted for.

I am one of the few here that actually understands how our representative democracy actually works. 

 

I respect the the rule of law and our Parliament’s sovereignty.  I respect the due process that is occurring during this mess. 

 

You don’t respect anything that doesn’t agree with you. You are no different to a petulant child. 

[I1L2T3 10]

1 hour ago, Lockdoctor said:

Of course it is anti democratic if the UK don't leave the EU.  David Cameron stated that it was up to the UK people (NOT PARLIAMENT) to decide whether the UK remained of left the EU and if the democratic people voted to leave the EU then the UK would leave the EU and there wouldn't be any new negotiations or another referendum. Leave won the the democratic 2016 EU referendum and if the UK don't leave the EU then all leave voters will have been cheated.

David Cameron spends most of his time in a shed now. Nothing he said is legally binding. Sorry he let you down.

33 minutes ago, Penistone999 said:

The damage caused to our country is being caused by a socialist dictatorship in Brussels passing laws and rules we must adhere to . I want a complete split from these people ,and No Deal is how we do it. 

Hold on, they’re a neoliberal corporate elite aren’t they?