Consequences of Brexit [part 7] Read first post before posting

[Lockdoctor 10]

20 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Why?

 

There are over 17.4 million reasons why a mockery of democracy will be made,  if the result  of the 2016 EU referendum is not implemented.

[Anna B 1,414]

37 minutes ago, Robin-H said:

You said in 2015 that they were referring to ‘that idiot Corbyn’. Corbyn can’t be reason why Labour didn’t win in 2015, seeing as has wasn’t elected leader until after the election. 

My apologies. I was getting confused with Corbyn's election to leader in2015.

 

The general election he fought was 2017, but my point still stands, the Tory method was that of attack dogs. They rubbished him at every opportunity, but because of election rules he managed to get a word in and May didn't win with the landslide she was expecting. The personal attacks have got worse since then. They obviously see him as a real threat.

[Litotes 63]

33 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

There are over 17.4 million reasons why a mockery of democracy will be made,  if the result  of the 2016 EU referendum is not implemented.

But more people didn't vote to leave...

 

And here we go again...

[Lockdoctor 10]

21 minutes ago, Litotes said:

But more people didn't vote to leave...

 

And here we go again...

More people voted to leave than voted to remain.  In the UK they only count votes that are in the ballot box.

 

You can go again if you like, but you will still be anti democratic.

[Litotes 63]

36 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

More people voted to leave than voted to remain.  In the UK they only count votes that are in the ballot box.

 

You can go again if you like, but you will still be anti democratic.

You don't understand the meaning of democracy - " control of an organization or group by the majority of its members. "

 

Leave did not get a majority of the UK's members.

 

Also - remember what David Davies said "If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy"

 

Now you can spin it whatever way you like, but to implement something onto an electorate that was not what it voted for is not democratic.

[I1L2T3 10]

4 hours ago, willman said:

But you can't illegally tick a box ?

That’s not how it works. 

 

Its not the people who voted who who have acted illegally.

 

But you knew that.

 

Yet another desperate angle of attack.

50 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

More people voted to leave than voted to remain.  In the UK they only count votes that are in the ballot box.

 

You can go again if you like, but you will still be anti democratic.

Nope.

 

Thats not how democracy works.

[Dardandec 32]

22 hours ago, apelike said:

We should leave and then if another referendum is called after that then fine.

But we wouldn't get the same deal as we get already. You do realise that yes? 

[Car Boot 10]

2 hours ago, Litotes said:

You don't understand the meaning of democracy - " control of an organization or group by the majority of its members. "

 

Leave did not get a majority of the UK's members.

 

Also - remember what David Davies said "If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy"

 

Now you can spin it whatever way you like, but to implement something onto an electorate that was not what it voted for is not democratic.

The Leave vote was the majority vote in the June 2016 referendum.

 

The majority of the electorate did not vote to Remain in the EU - but to Leave it.

 

To pretend that Remain was the majority, when it clearly wasn't, is undemocratic and FAKE.

1 hour ago, Dardandec said:

But we wouldn't get the same deal as we get already. You do realise that yes? 

The deal we have at the moment is the reason a clear majority of the electorate voted to LEAVE the EU. 

 

You do realise that, yes?

[Phanerothyme 12]

It occurs to me that the next public poll, where the UK can express its opinion on Brexit, will ironically enough be the European elections.

I wonder if we will break the pathetic 35% turnout figures that usually characterise Euro election voting.

[RJRB 688]

9 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

The Leave vote was the majority vote in the June 2016 referendum.

 

The majority of the electorate did not vote to Remain in the EU - but to Leave it.

 

To pretend that Remain was the majority, when it clearly wasn't, is undemocratic and FAKE.

The deal we have at the moment is the reason a clear majority of the electorate voted to LEAVE the EU. 

 

You do realise that, yes?

You speak of the majority who voted to leave as one homogeneous set with the the same beliefs and reasons to vote as they did.

Moreover you seem to think that they all share your own view.

The truth is that the reasons are many and varied but a mistaken interpretation of immigration was well to the fore.

Farage fed on this and the Tories responded out of fear for losing votes to UKIP.

Without this coincidence of factors,the Leave campaign would have remained as nothing more than a festering sore in the Conservative party.

[Top Cats Hat 10]

20 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

The majority of the electorate did not vote to Remain in the EU - but to Leave it.

Really?

 

So 36.7% of the electorate didn't vote Leave.

 

Maybe you could enlighten us as to what %age of the electorate did vote leave?

[fill 10]

may voted remain and now it is startingto look as if she is trying to make sure that do.

 

of those that were bothered enough to have expressed a preference in the reforendum the outcome was .. we leave

don't forget we voted to join a common market and then woke up and voted to leave the EEC which we were never asked if we wanted to join.

 

i still am wondering why we did not leave within the month and stop ANY and ALL immigration at the same time until the population drops to lets say about 50 million or less

 

as for this damned back-stop thing  why not just give northern ireland their independence and that border would no longer be an issue of concern for us