White supremacist attack in NZ

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Just now, Top Cats Hat said:

Why are you so certain that he wasn't?

 

Robinson has made a very good living spreading his particular brand of Islamophobia and along with Geert Wilders, Anders Breivik, Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller is one of the most well known figures in the area of social media which Tarrant seemed to have immersed himself in.

 

 

Correction. I'm not certain of anything, which is why I'm not casting aspersions. 

 

You hold Robbinson responsible for Tarrant becoming a mass murdering terrorist, but why are you so certain that Robbinson even factored in it? 

2 minutes ago, Halibut said:

Steady on there. No one's claiming that Tarrant was radicalised exclusively by Tommy. I am saying that Tommy's policy of promoting hate contributes to the climate of hate that inspires people like Tarrant.

The local shop running out of milk could just as ealiy trigger and inspire a wacko to embark on a killing spree. 

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9 minutes ago, danot said:

You hold Robbinson responsible for Tarrant becoming a mass murdering terrorist,

Try reading and understanding what people are saying, before replying to what they have posted.

 

If nothing else it will save you asking the same question twice.

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Just now, Top Cats Hat said:

Try reading and understanding what people are saying, before replying to what they have posted.

 

If nothing else it will save you asking the same question twice.

Apologies. Allow me to rephrase the question. 

Is Robbinson responsible or not?

[Vaati 11]

The bickering is to cease. Otherwise accounts will be suspended.

[Halibut 12]

21 minutes ago, danot said:

Apologies. Allow me to rephrase the question. 

Is Robbinson responsible or not?

He is responsible for being a leading contributor to the growing culture of hatred and demonisation of Muslims which led to the attack in Christchurch.

 

 

Edited March 17, 2019 by Halibut

[danot 10]

Agreeing on what's being discussed isn't always possible, and if we're not allowed to challenge points we disagree with, there's no point discussing anything that might devide opinion or stir emotion. 

 

 

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33 minutes ago, danot said:

Is Robbinson responsible or not?

Robinson is responsible for helping create the narrative that Muslims are the enemy and if we don't do anything about it we will all end up in some kind of global Islamic caliphate.

 

Robinson may be a comedy figure but he is not stupid. While not directly encouraging attacks he knows that his language is inflammatory and targets those whose response to dog whistle sloganeering is anger and sometimes violence. He also creates the narrative that only him and those like him are telling the truth and everyone else is involved in a conspiracy to silence him which has led to attacks on members of the media. In that climate, crackpots like Tarrant start to see themselves as right and everyone else as wrong which makes it much easier for them to justify going out and killing people

 

So yes, Robinson must absolutely take his share of responsibility for what happend in New Zealand on Friday.

[danot 10]

1 hour ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Robinson is responsible for helping create the narrative that Muslims are the enemy and if we don't do anything about it we will all end up in some kind of global Islamic caliphate.

 

Robinson may be a comedy figure but he is not stupid. While not directly encouraging attacks he knows that his language is inflammatory and targets those whose response to dog whistle sloganeering is anger and sometimes violence. He also creates the narrative that only him and those like him are telling the truth and everyone else is involved in a conspiracy to silence him which has led to attacks on members of the media. In that climate, crackpots like Tarrant start to see themselves as right and everyone else as wrong which makes it much easier for them to justify going out and killing people

 

So yes, Robinson must absolutely take his share of responsibility for what happend in New Zealand on Friday.

Agreed. And members of the Muslim community need to take a share of the responsibility too. The Muslim community needs to openly and publically condemn the Muslim's who are butchering innocent civilians on our streets and systematically grooming, raping and passing around our children, crimes that Robbinson and the media can so easily portray as being synonymous with immigration and Muslim's while the community pleads ignorance to what's going on and/or honours  the communities code of silence, which is quite obviously happening, so hardly surprising that  there's  a division.

Robbinson and the like play on the cultural devide, and if more of the Muslim community were openly supportive and sharing our frustration and concern over what's happening within their community, most of what Robbinson harps on about would fall on death ears abd hopefully close the devide.

 

As Martin Luther king said.  "In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends".

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Robinson is responsible for helping create the narrative that Muslims are the enemy and if we don't do anything about it we will all end up in some kind of global Islamic caliphate.

 

Robinson may be a comedy figure but he is not stupid. While not directly encouraging attacks he knows that his language is inflammatory and targets those whose response to dog whistle sloganeering is anger and sometimes violence. He also creates the narrative that only him and those like him are telling the truth and everyone else is involved in a conspiracy to silence him which has led to attacks on members of the media. In that climate, crackpots like Tarrant start to see themselves as right and everyone else as wrong which makes it much easier for them to justify going out and killing people

 

So yes, Robinson must absolutely take his share of responsibility for what happend in New Zealand on Friday.

Whilst Robinson has played a part in peoples feelings towards certain sections of Muslim society the grooming gangs also played a part too. So did the poppy burners and the Luton protesters who berated our troops during a welcome home parade.

Robinson is no angel and I still get angry when I remember the rape crisis centre controversy but to suggest he is even capable of doing what you say is outlandish.

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You can't say you were not warned...closing.