The Consequences of Brexit [Part 6] READ FIRST POST BEFORE COMMENTING

[Cyclone 10]

10 hours ago, retep said:

Logic seems to be your weak point if you think we have any power in the EU, and even more so if we stay in after all the threats the corrupt union has thrown at the UK.

You just sound like the epitome of ignorance.  We had a driving seat in the EU, a level of control out of proportion to our true status.  That's not contentious or up for debate, it's simple fact.

[retep 68]

37 minutes ago, Cyclone said:

You just sound like the epitome of ignorance.  We had a driving seat in the EU, a level of control out of proportion to our true status.  That's not contentious or up for debate, it's simple fact.

You sound like the typical lefty brainwashed student, try hanging about with people your own age.

[I1L2T3 10]

11 hours ago, retep said:

Logic seems to be your weak point if you think we have any power in the EU, and even more so if we stay in after all the threats the corrupt union has thrown at the UK.

We have a lot of power in the EU. The idea that we haven’t has been debunked time and time again.

[tzijlstra 11]

So, can we have any of these fabled threats spelled out yet? How about the advantages of leaving?

[Magilla 510]

Council tax bills in England to rise an average of 4.5%....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-47442652

 

The real Brexit dividend, now extended indefinately!

 

Slow clap for the leavers.. YAY!

Edited March 5, 2019 by Magilla

[Lockdoctor 10]

3 minutes ago, Magilla said:

Council tax bills in England to rise an average of 4.5%....   9% in Pembrokeshire and Conwy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-47442652

 

In part, the "Brexit dividend" in action!

 

 

Hilarious.   Have a look at your old council tax bills and work out how much percentage more you pay now than you paid 10, 15 and 20 years ago.  If we have bad weather at Easter some posters on here will be blaming that on Brexit.

[Magilla 510]

25 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

Hilarious.   Have a look at your old council tax bills and work out how much percentage more you pay now than you paid 10, 15 and 20 years ago.

Weirdly, when I do that, not one of them shows a rise anywhere near this one.... hmmmm

 

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If we have bad weather at Easter some posters on here will be blaming that on Brexit.

It's funny that you think there's some meaningful comparison between council funding and the weather, I note you're a leave advocate

 

There is no doubt that the large rise in council tax needed this year and now predicted for several more years to come, are in part a result of the losses that Brexit will and has already caused.

 

To deny it is simply daft.

 

Mays withdrawal shrinks the economy by 3%, that's the £1.6bn regeneration money for the whole of England over 7 years....*every 10 days*! (3 days on no-deal)

 

Just wait until we get the tax rises to pay for the NHS. Brexit will almost certainly change it fundamentally, and not for the better of you're working class or low paid.

 

Plenty more Brexit bad news yet to come, this is just the tip of the iceberg.

 

Brace yourself!

 

Edited March 5, 2019 by Magilla

[apelike 10]

2 hours ago, Magilla said:

Weirdly, when I do that, not one of them shows a rise anywhere near this one.... hmmmm

 

It's funny that you think there's some meaningful comparison between council funding and the weather, I note you're a leave advocate

 

There is no doubt that the large rise in council tax needed this year and now predicted for several more years to come, are in part a result of the losses that Brexit will and has already caused.

 

To deny it is simply daft.

Its not daft at all, what is daft however is claiming it is in part caused because of Brexit especially when that cannot be proven and is just remainer spin. Most councils in the UK received a grant from the government between 2010- 2016 providing they froze the rate. After the scheme finished there was a notable jump in councils raising the rate. A coincidence of timing or because of brexit.... 

 

https://www.moneyobserver.com/news/how-much-has-council-tax-increased-past-20-years

[El Cid 216]

2 hours ago, Lockdoctor said:

Hilarious.   Have a look at your old council tax bills and work out how much percentage more you pay now than you paid 10, 15 and 20 years ago.  If we have bad weather at Easter some posters on here will be blaming that on Brexit.

 

The UK economy came close to flatlining last month as Brexit uncertainty intensified and the global economy weakened, with employment levels falling at the fastest pace in almost nine years.

According to the latest snapshot of Britain’s services sector – which accounts for 80% of economic growth – businesses have begun to delay hiring staff against a backdrop of subdued demand and concerns about the economic outlook as the scheduled date of the UK’s departure from the EU draws nearer.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/mar/05/uk-economy-brexit-employment

[convert 10]

2 hours ago, Magilla said:

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Mays withdrawal shrinks the economy by 3%,

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I'd be interested to see the link / source for this please?

 

[Magilla 510]

30 minutes ago, convert said:

 

I'd be interested to see the link / source for this please?

 

The figures have been widely covered in the media for many months... how could you possibly not have seen them if you're "interested"?

 

They're not in any way a secret, they're the governments own projections!

 

 

52 minutes ago, apelike said:

Its not daft at all,

To suggest a loss that is equivalent to half the entire NHS budget might have a knock on effect in funding other things is daft?  ... LOL, yeah, you've convinced me!

 

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what is daft however is claiming it is in part caused because of Brexit especially when that cannot be proven and is just remainer spin.

Hmmm, weren't you busy telling everyone that the pound is still worth the same regardless of any devaluation of the currency

 

Edited March 5, 2019 by Magilla

[convert 10]

4 minutes ago, Magilla said:

The figures have been widely covered in the media for many months... how could you possibly not have seen them if you're "interested"?

 

They're not in any way a secret, they're the governments own projections!

 

 

Thank you.

 

So they aren't actual figures then, just projections.

The projections made by the Treasury back in 2016 re Brexit were wildly inaccurate, why should these be any more so?

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/524967/hm_treasury_analysis_the_immediate_economic_impact_of_leaving_the_eu_web.pdf

 

Prediction of a leave vote causing between 3.6 and 6.0% reduction in GDP in the 2 years following the vote (prior to actually leaving) and unemployment increasing by between 520 and 820K. 

 

Care to take a guess at the actual figures?

 

Edited March 5, 2019 by convert