apelike   10 #2989 Posted February 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said: How many people do you know?  Nobody knows the actual numbers.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tzijlstra   11 #2990 Posted February 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Mister M said: Which would be nothing compared to the embarrassment of Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage, David Davis, Dominic Raab, Jacob Rees Mogg and Liam Fox had they any shame. But they have no shame. Nor do they have a plan, or even a clue. Just as well they are rich enough to insulate themselves from any negative effects of Brexit.  Now let’s be honest here! They have a plan: pretend to be men of the people whilst raking in the millions by backing manipulated funds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Car Boot   10 #2991 Posted February 16, 2019 Remain voters frequently claim that nobody 'voted to make themselves poorer'. This is both absurd and untrue. Remain voters (by voting to Remain in the economically failing EU) actually voted to make not just themselves poorer but EVERY OTHER SINGLE PERSON IN THE UK.  UK unemployment has now fallen to just 4 per cent. In France unemployment is above 8 per cent. In Italy it's above 10. Our growth, which capitalists use to measure success for business, is above Germany. Consumer spending in January 2019 - Brexit Year - was 2.9 per cent higher than in January 2018. The economy has not crashed due to Brexit, and is doing far better than most EU member states which are being ravaged by EU neoliberal austerity policies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Car Boot   10 #2992 Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, melthebell said: Leavers are the traitors, despite their nationalist jackbooting and flag waving they would readily destroy our livlihoods, our economy, out standard of living, our jobs, our industries all because of an obsession created by lies and mistruths Many Leave voters have already experienced the destruction of their livelihoods, the collapse of their standard of living, the loss of their jobs and replacement with zero hours contracts while the rich have been enjoying the fruits of our EU membership. Being in the EU doesn't protect the poor from recession. Never has, never will.  The EU benefits the wealthy. But the poor are no longer content with a trickle down of the economic crumbs from the 'generosity' of our EU overlords.  Stop blaming Leave voters for the inbuilt economic expansion and contraction of capitalism!  Blame the Bosses and Brussels! Edited February 16, 2019 by Car Boot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3   10 #2993 Posted February 16, 2019 23 minutes ago, Car Boot said: Many Leave voters have already experienced the destruction of their livelihoods, the collapse of their standard of living, the loss of their jobs and replacement with zero hours contracts while the rich have been enjoying the fruits of our EU membership. Being in the EU doesn't protect the poor from recession. Never has, never will.  The EU benefits the wealthy. But the poor are no longer content with a trickle down of the economic crumbs from the 'generosity' of our EU overlords.  Stop blaming Leave voters for the inbuilt economic expansion and contraction of capitalism!  Blame the Bosses and Brussels! Valid concerns  But how is putting Rees-Mogg and Fox in charge of fixing these issues going to work out? 9 hours ago, apelike said:  Nobody knows the actual numbers.... The claim was that somebody doesn’t know a single person under 30 who voted remain.  That could be their personal experience, but the weight of evidence doesn’t support that as the norm.  Further, Lets not forget that the poster who claimed it hopes that under-30 Brexit voters will be the source of street violence if Brexit doesn’t happen.  So there’s an agenda there. Quite a sinister one too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   218 #2994 Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) These trade deals are not quite so easy! Chinese Vice Premier Hu Chunhua has cancelled trade talks with Britain’s finance minister Philip Hammond after defence secretary Gavin Williamson threatened to deploy a warship in the Pacific, The Sun newspaper reported on Thursday. Hu was due to hold trade talks with Hammond this weekend, it said. The newspaper said Hu cancelled the talks in protest at Williamson’s speech on Monday.  https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-china-talks/china-cancels-trade-talks-with-uk-in-protest-over-defence-secretarys-speech-the-sun-idUKKCN1Q314G   Edited February 16, 2019 by El Cid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla   510 #2995 Posted February 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, El Cid said: These trade deals are not quite so easy! Chinese Vice Premier Hu Chunhua has cancelled trade talks with Britain’s finance minister Philip Hammond after defence secretary Gavin Williamson threatened to deploy a warship in the Pacific, The Sun newspaper reported on Thursday. Hu was due to hold trade talks with Hammond this weekend, it said. The newspaper said Hu cancelled the talks in protest at Williamson’s speech on Monday.  https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-china-talks/china-cancels-trade-talks-with-uk-in-protest-over-defence-secretarys-speech-the-sun-idUKKCN1Q314G   Aye, imagine my surprise that something described as "project fear" is actually happening!  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3   10 #2996 Posted February 16, 2019 Williamson is having a pop at Russia this week as well.  Russia is the source of quite a proportion of our oil, gas and vehicle fuel.  It looks like the Tories are falling over themselves to make this as bad as possible on every level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ez8004   10 #2997 Posted February 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Magilla said: Aye, imagine my surprise that something described as "project fear" is actually happening!  So a trade deal with the world’s second largest economy by 29th March looks really realistic right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Eater Sundae   12 #2998 Posted February 16, 2019 4 hours ago, I1L2T3 said: Williamson is having a pop at Russia this week as well.  Russia is the source of quite a proportion of our oil, gas and vehicle fuel.  It looks like the Tories are falling over themselves to make this as bad as possible on every level. Shock Horror!!  We plan to leave a very large trading block. In the knowledge that after Brexit we will have less clout on the worldwide stage, other big traders take every opportunity to jockey for relative position.  Just Realpolitik in action. We need to get used to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla   510 #2999 Posted February 16, 2019 Leavers are discovering the difficult truth about trade deals: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/16/leavers-discovering-difficult-truth-trade-deals-brexit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WiseOwl182 Â Â 10 #3000 Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Magilla said: Leavers are discovering the difficult truth about trade deals: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/16/leavers-discovering-difficult-truth-trade-deals-brexit Do you read anything other than the Guardian? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...