I1L2T3 Â Â 10 #3457 Posted February 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, apelike said: They can't go for an automatic suspension of A50 as any suspension needs to be agreed on by all the members unlike revocation which only needs May to notify the EU. Â Â Â They will agree it in a heartbeat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
apelike   10 #3458 Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, melthebell said: Finally Corbyn grows some balls https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47363307 It's about damage limitation and politics.  2 minutes ago, I1L2T3 said: They will agree it in a heartbeat Given that it only takes one to veto I'm not so sure,especially Spain. Edited February 25, 2019 by apelike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #3459 Posted February 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, apelike said: It's about damage limitation and politics.   If it was about politics they shouldve been opposition to the tories and their brexit for the past 2 years, but they havent, theyve been invisible, hanging onto their shambolic coat tails and wishing for a general election (that they wont win) They needed to be a proper opposition to brexit, attract all the remainers (yeah theyd lose some labour leavers but.............)  no point having the 2 largest parties following the same damaging trajectory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Penistone999   10 #3460 Posted February 25, 2019 6 hours ago, melthebell said: Everywhere i look its starting to look more like an extension than a no deal, Penis and his brextremist mates must be squeaking their bottoms about now  Not at all Mel. Its one thing some Remoaners calling for an extension ,and some foreign suits in Brussels calling for it, but it has to get through the commons, and as we know , as well as the ERG , there are many Labour MP`s who represent "Leave" constituencies who are against extending article 50 . So getting the numbers to get it passed in the commons may be difficult. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #3461 Posted February 25, 2019 28 minutes ago, apelike said: Given that it only takes one to veto I'm not so sure,especially Spain. And given how united the EU has been over this whole business, on a scale of 1 to 10 how likely to you think it is that Spain will veto a suspension?  Ironically, the last three years have seen the EU strengthened rather than weakened, as predicted by the populist right and far right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Penistone999   10 #3462 Posted February 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Mister M said: Our government has kindly set up a hardship fund for those made unemployed in the event of a no deal Brexit.  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6741123/Ministers-planning-hardship-fund-Britons-hardest-hit-no-deal-Brexit.html  Nice to know. Why the hell would they go through with it if it's going to cause hardship? Oh yes to please the gammons in case they go a bit red in the face & start bellyaching.      I have no worries about No Deal affecting me . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #3463 Posted February 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, Penistone999 said: there are many Labour MP`s who represent "Leave" constituencies who are against extending article 50 . So getting the numbers to get it passed in the commons may be difficult. Really?  A Labour MP who facilitates a no deal exit will be out on their asre at the next available election. The government's own reports have said that it is leave contituencies who will be hit first and hardest by a no deal exit.  Only a handful of cranks and extremists would still support a Labour MP who did so much damage to their own constituency.  You are clutching at straws dude! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Penistone999   10 #3464 Posted February 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said: Really?  A Labour MP who facilitates a no deal exit will be out on their asre at the next available election. The government's own reports have said that it is leave contituencies who will be hit first and hardest by a no deal exit.  Only a handful of cranks and extremists would still support a Labour MP who did so much damage to their own constituency.  You are clutching at straws dude! Caroline Flint , Labour MP has said today there is no way Labour will get enough of its own MP`s to vote for a second referendum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #3465 Posted February 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Penistone999 said: Caroline Flint , Labour MP has said today there is no way Labour will get enough of its own MP`s to vote for a second referendum. like i said they need to change tact if they wanna win something cos at the moment they are nothing, they wont win this holy grail of a GE they have been waiting for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #3466 Posted February 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, Penistone999 said: Caroline Flint , Labour MP has said today there is no way Labour will get enough of its own MP`s to vote for a second referendum. You seem to be confusing a vote to suspend Article 50 with a vote for a second referendum. 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #3467 Posted February 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Top Cats Hat said: You seem to be confusing a vote to suspend Article 50 with a vote for a second referendum. its all the same to him, not an extremists vision of a no deal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #3468 Posted February 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, melthebell said: like i said they need to change tact if they wanna win something cos at the moment they are nothing, they wont win this holy grail of a GE they have been waiting for. To have any chance of winning a general election, Labour needs to stand as an anti Brexit party. To do this it has to ditch Jeremy Corbyn as he could not credibly lead an anti Brexit election campaign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...