Honda leaving - possible alternatives?

[ez8004 10]

Seeing people get their comeuppance is rather satisfying. 

[Happ 25]

1 minute ago, ez8004 said:

Seeing people get their comeuppance is rather satisfying. 

What people?

[ez8004 10]

The majority of people who voted leave. They deserve the consequences. As we are constantly reminded my Leavers, the majority have spoken. So I am glad the consequences are and will be happening. 

 

Unfortunate for some who voted remain, but it is all for themselves I am afraid. I won’t be affected so I have gone beyond caring for others. 

[Ontarian1981 10]

 I don't know the situation with the said Honda plant, but from my limited experience of research and development( subcontract to a Ford supplier of parts), I believe there have to be several manufacturers of the car parts. For example, I worked on a newer, safer sub-chassis for a new Ford mini-van(people carrier) about 20 years ago and this was for a subcontractor to Ford. The engineers involved told me that all the big car manufacturers design the model and supply the engine and transmission and farm out all the other parts to various specialised companies. In the end, all the main car plant does is assemble the vehicles. So there is a lot more to making cars than just buying the assembly plant, you would have to have a network of parts manufacturers too.

[El Cid 210]

1 hour ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

I think we owe a debt of gratitude to the barm pots who through their actions of promoting electric cars before they are a real viable alternative have done untold damage to the sale of petrol/diesel car sales = jobs.

 

I would put that at the door of politicians that they think they should tell everyone what they must drive in 25 years time.

They will be cleaner, greener and safer; what form that will take is unknown. They have ditched the idea of zero carbon house now, barking, we need new politicians.

[Happ 25]

46 minutes ago, ez8004 said:

The majority of people who voted leave. They deserve the consequences. As we are constantly reminded my Leavers, the majority have spoken. So I am glad the consequences are and will be happening. 

 

Unfortunate for some who voted remain, but it is all for themselves I am afraid. I won’t be affected so I have gone beyond caring for others. 

What a simplistic view. Well done you.

[Crosser 10]

3 hours ago, El Cid said:

I would put that at the door of politicians that they think they should tell everyone what they must drive in 25 years time.

They will be cleaner, greener and safer; what form that will take is unknown. They have ditched the idea of zero carbon house now, barking, we need new politicians.

Just one small point about charging these here electric vehicles....

All the banter seems to assume that everyone has a drive/garage.

 

Now what happens if you happen to live on the top floor of a 17 storey block of flats?

 

That's gonna be one long cable, and hopefully nobody will interfere with it(possibly rendering it dangerous).

[El Cid 210]

If we are all going to have these electric cars, new houses should be made with a charging point, it should be included in the building standards.

In reality, new diesels will be even cleaner than todays EURO 6 cars.  I believe electric cars are more efficient than petrol/diesel, but maybe the costs involved will become lower.

[ANGELFIRE1 10]

12 minutes ago, Crosser said:

Just one small point about charging these here electric vehicles....

All the banter seems to assume that everyone has a drive/garage.

 

Now what happens if you happen to live on the top floor of a 17 storey block of flats?

 

That's gonna be one long cable, and hopefully nobody will interfere with it(possibly rendering it dangerous).

Even dafter than the cable situation, if we were to suffer a couple of weeks subzero temps our electric usage would put our lecky use severely into the red and might even require lecky cuts. Imagine if we all went insane and bought Lecky cars, where the heck would the electricity come from to charge them all up, the far fabled electric tree. Like I posted, it has not been thought through to any degree by the barm pots who would like to implement it. The lunatics have taken over the asylum, while we pay them for doing it.

[tinfoilhat 11]

2 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

Even dafter than the cable situation, if we were to suffer a couple of weeks subzero temps our electric usage would put our lecky use severely into the red and might even require lecky cuts. Imagine if we all went insane and bought Lecky cars, where the heck would the electricity come from to charge them all up, the far fabled electric tree. Like I posted, it has not been thought through to any degree by the barm pots who would like to implement it. The lunatics have taken over the asylum, while we pay them for doing it.

Does carbon emissions or clean air mean anything to you at all?

[Crosser 10]

32 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

Does carbon emissions or clean air mean anything to you at all?

For goodness sake, does "Practical Application" mean anything to YOU?

Yes we'd all live zero carbon  lives etc etc BUT! nobody is going to do it if it's difficult.

 

Or if their electricity is going to be stolen by the "scrotes up the street" while they are asleep 17 stories up.

Would you even "risk it"?

 

No, of course not.

 

Now lets have some realistic ideas

 

[tinfoilhat 11]

Calm down treacle you’ll do yourself a mischief.

 

Not everyone lives in 17 story flats. I don’t, there are none in my locale. But you raise a fair point, charging infrastructure does need investment. Although I do recall a car being charged from a terraced house in London. Cable came out the letterbox, down the path and across the pavement and into the car! Zero ****s appeared to have been given!

 

That said, maybe smaller petrol engine use should be encouraged. They’re being produced by most brands now and should at least help improve city centre air quality.  Hybrids don’t need a cable at all do they?