Mister M   1,625 #13 Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Anna B said: Wouldn't that just be a re-run of the 1980's when the SDP (gang of four = a few others,) joined up with the Liberals to form the Liberal Democrats? That didn't end well did it, still, if they want political obscurity. . . I don't think they particularly care about obscurity. They sounded totally <removed> off. Edited February 20, 2019 by nikki-red Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #14 Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) I'd rather the lib dems or greens doing better Edited February 20, 2019 by melthebell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jim Hardie   527 #15 Posted February 20, 2019 4 hours ago, El Cid said: The gang of 7 is now a gang of 11. Do we support a new small party, should we have an electoral system that allows them to flourish? A gang of 11 and 8 Liberal Democrats, they may well form one larger party. Are there any implications for Brexit, Corbyn or May? A small party needs a leader and policies, the Liberal Democrats already have both. A re-branded Liberal Tory/Lab party is the way forward?  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47306022 Which three of the Lib Dems have you written off? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,625 #16 Posted February 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, Anna B said: Wouldn't that just be a re-run of the 1980's when the SDP (gang of four = a few others,) joined up with the Liberals to form the Liberal Democrats? That didn't end well did it, still, if they want political obscurity. . . Polly Toynbee who was a high profile defector from Labour to the SDP in the 1980s says there are big differences between the situation that led to the creation of the SDP and the situation that there is now. Her article is worth a read : https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/18/labour-schism-sdp-brexit-seven-mps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jim Hardie   527 #17 Posted February 20, 2019 30 minutes ago, Mister M said: Polly Toynbee who was a high profile defector from Labour to the SDP in the 1980s says there are big differences between the situation that led to the creation of the SDP and the situation that there is now. Her article is worth a read : https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/18/labour-schism-sdp-brexit-seven-mps High profile? What was her profile at the time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Alfb Property d   0 #18 Posted February 20, 2019 I’m sure they will want to hammer us with tax on every level of society as usual   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Treeman893 Â Â 10 #19 Posted February 20, 2019 Corbin came close to winning the 2017 election for the exact reason I stated, lesser of two evils. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #20 Posted February 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, Treeman893 said: Corbin came close to winning the 2017 election for the exact reason I stated, lesser of two evils. Really?  Labour started that campaign 10-15 points behind the Tories and gradually clawed that back to level pegging on the day of the election. If the election had been a week later, Labour would have had a 2-3 point lead and would have almost certainly had a working majority. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Robin-H   11 #21 Posted February 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said: Really?  Labour started that campaign 10-15 points behind the Tories and gradually clawed that back to level pegging on the day of the election. If the election had been a week later, Labour would have had a 2-3 point lead and would have almost certainly had a working majority. Imagine if the election had been six months later. Labour would have had 100%! /s   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #22 Posted February 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, Robin-H said: Imagine if the election had been six months later. Labour would have had 100%! / Another SF poster who doesn't understand maths lol 😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Robin-H   11 #23 Posted February 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said: Another SF poster who doesn't understand maths lol 😂 Perhaps you missed the /s after my comment. I was (obviously) being sarcastic.  I was highlighting the point that you can't extrapolate the vote share like that. The fact that Labour closed the gap until voting day does not mean that they would have continued to increase the vote share. They may have, or the vote could have levelled off, or the vote could have declined. It is impossible to say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WiseOwl182 Â Â 10 #24 Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Top Cats Hat said: Really? Â Labour started that campaign 10-15 points behind the Tories and gradually clawed that back to level pegging on the day of the election. If the election had been a week later, Labour would have had a 2-3 point lead and would have almost certainly had a working majority. By your same logic, leave would have won by an even larger majority than remain if the referendum was held a bit later, since remain started with a huge poll lead that gradually eroded and then reversed on the day. Confusingly (and predictably) though, you only apply your logic selectively to suit what you want. Edited February 20, 2019 by WiseOwl182 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...