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This case will set a dangerous precedent if allowed to strip her of her nationality because she is eligible for Bengaladeshi nationality.

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17 minutes ago, mafya said:

This case will set a dangerous precedent if allowed to strip her of her nationality because she is eligible for Bengaladeshi nationality.

Agree entirely, and certainly not without her day in court, as is every British citizens right.

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17 minutes ago, mafya said:

This case will set a dangerous precedent if allowed to strip her of her nationality because she is eligible for Bengaladeshi nationality.

She isn't though ..that was/is "fake news"

The Bangladeshi don't want her 

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8 minutes ago, deedah said:

She isn't though ..that was/is "fake news"

The Bangladeshi don't want her 

It wasn't fake news because if her mother is Bangladeshi, then she automatically is a  Bangladeshi  citizen under their bloodline law, until she reaches the age of 21.

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57 minutes ago, Shunter said:

There is something inherently wrong with these followers who believe the examples you've given. 

Science and peaceful modern living are the only way forward for the future. History and heritage are just something to look back on and learn not live by in modern society.

Of course there are a few that believe whatever they see or read (and usually end up posting on here)

I broadly agree with you, and I'm no fan of religion; but I'd query the 'peaceful modern living' bit...

 

Of course not in that peace is bad or anything; but rather, what is the real cost, that others have to pay, for us to enjoy our peaceful modern living?

 

Not that you or I, are directly harming other people in other nations around the world; but what about our goverments and corporations who are the bed-rock of this peaceful modern life we enjoy? What impact do they have on those less fortunate living in less capable nations? Does the western world interfere in, destabalise or try to exploit other nations too weak to stand up to us?

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33 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

It wasn't fake news because if her mother is Bangladeshi, then she automatically is a  Bangladeshi  citizen under their bloodline law, until she reaches the age of 21.

Have you not seen the TV news over last few days ? 

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Interesting how the forum leftists are happy to support this girls so called rights, considering that her actions and opinions cause more hatred towards a certain religion than anything the likes of Tommy Robinson say's or does, do they not see their own hypocrisy and lack of perspective ?

Yeah let's just let her and her child back and support them with benefits or ask her a few questions at the taxpayers expense while trying to silence those who dare to criticise the religious aspects of her cause, who knows in a few years time when she has been 'de-radicalized' old Jezza  and co may have her standing for election in what's left of the Labour party, if not there will always be a spot on Loose Women or I'm a Celebrity eh ! 

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17 minutes ago, deedah said:

Have you not seen the TV news over last few days ? 

Yes, I have seen the TV news over the last few days.  What's your point?

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28 minutes ago, Michael_W said:

Interesting how the forum leftists are happy to support this girls so called rights, considering that her actions and opinions cause more hatred towards a certain religion than anything the likes of Tommy Robinson say's or does, do they not see their own hypocrisy and lack of perspective ?

Opposing hatred doesn't cause hatred - that's a ridiculous logical fallacy.

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20 minutes ago, Michael_W said:

Interesting how the forum leftists are happy to support this girls so called rights, 

The right and the far right have always struggled with the concept of 'rights'. Your use of the phrase 'so called rights' demonstrates that perfectly.

 

The whole point of rights is that they are universal. You don't earn them, deserve them or lose them. You simply have them. The right and far right seem to think that rights should only be given to those who they approve of. Presumably that is why slavery, misogyny, racism, homophobia, antisemitism and disabled prejudice are all tenets of right and far right philosophy. They are justified by choosing who does and doesn't have rights. The greatest opposition to human rights legislation and organisations comes from the populist right.

 

Yes I am more than happy to despise this woman's beliefs and simultaneously absolutely support her rights. 

 

By the way, the naked hatred shown by some of the more reactionary posters on this thread including those calling for her to be lynched puts them much closer to iSIS than I or anyone on the left will ever be.

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1 hour ago, Lockdoctor said:

Yes, I have seen the TV news over the last few days.  What's your point?

What's the point ! 

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2 hours ago, Lockdoctor said:

It wasn't fake news because if her mother is Bangladeshi, then she automatically is a  Bangladeshi  citizen under their bloodline law, until she reaches the age of 21.

The fake news was

 

1. She was a Bangladeshi citizen.

 

2. She travelled to Bangladesh as a child

 

3. She holds a Bangladeshi passport.

 

All the above are untrue and all the above were referred to by various media outlets this week.

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