Bochum Parkway speed limit

[Annie Bynnol 612]

1 hour ago, WiseOwl182 said:

The stretch of road in question is around 1 mile long. The majority of vehicles travel around 50mph or higher on it anyway. Changing the limit would have no actual real life effect, it would just legalise the 'speeding' most drivers on there do already.

All this fuss about travelling at 50 mph for half a mile?

 

[DerbyTup 10]

On 04/02/2019 at 23:48, Longcol said:

I think the answer is due to this;

 

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3313814,-1.4516266,3a,37.5y,270h,90.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sONqKOp7WF3ypzRG2kp-kBg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&authuser=0

Ah yes...pedestrians emerging unexpectedly from extremely long grass.  🧐

[WiseOwl182 10]

7 hours ago, Annie Bynnol said:

All this fuss about travelling at 50 mph for half a mile?

 

"1 mile long" I said.

 

Also, what's "all this fuss"? A disagreement on an internet forum?!

Edited February 10, 2019 by WiseOwl182

[Cyclone 10]

12 hours ago, ads36 said:

On the parkway?

 

there's loads of junctions, lots of traffic joining, and leaving. The slip roads are short, and often uphill, hence merging traffic is travelling slowly.

 

thats why it's a 50.

 

plus, there's almost always a queue at each end - rendering higher speeds completely pointless.

 

Functionally, it's not even a 50 - reducing the limit would make more sense. It wouldn't increase most journey times, it would reduce the length of the stop-start queues, it would reduce the amount of fuel pointlessly burnt by people  accelerating  to 50+, and it would reduce the road noise inflicted on those who live next to it.

Most of that is correct, but "almost always a queue".  No.  Almost always at rush hour, but there are about another 20 hrs in the day when there isn't a queue at either end of the parkway.

[Planner1 438]

13 hours ago, ads36 said:

On the parkway?

 

there's loads of junctions, lots of traffic joining, and leaving. The slip roads are short, and often uphill, hence merging traffic is travelling slowly.

 

thats why it's a 50.

 

It's classed as an urban motorway, so the appropriate speed limit is 50 according to government guidance. That's why it changes to National speed limit once it is no longer "urban"

[Daven 10]

3 hours ago, DerbyTup said:

Ah yes...pedestrians emerging unexpectedly from extremely long grass.  🧐

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3308091,-1.4542367,3a,75y,283.32h,75.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slnqDMOu5ABhi1832-f4KPw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&authuser=0

This was attached to post 7 - keep up mate.

[Annie Bynnol 612]

2 hours ago, WiseOwl182 said:

"1 mile long" I said.

 

Also, what's "all this fuss"? A disagreement on an internet forum?!

You said the stretch of road was a mile long. It is, but, as nobody will be approaching those speeds at the beginning or end of that mile increasing the limit will only allow a section in the middle at which the limit will be observed. 

 

Towards Norton:

Section 1  A short accelerating section out of the junction with due care and attention to conditions and other users.

Section 2  The 'fast'  bit which includes an unprotected footpath crossing.

Section 3  A long deceleration down to the junction with road and footpath crossings, access to fields, lanes and minor roads with slow left turning and entering traffic including heavy plant crossing, school transports and farm vehicles.

 

I would suggest that Section 1+3 is about equal to Section 2 ie half a mile and not worth the fuss.

22 minutes ago, Daven said:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3308091,-1.4542367,3a,75y,283.32h,75.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slnqDMOu5ABhi1832-f4KPw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&authuser=0

This was attached to post 7 - keep up mate.

Nice skid marks on the road in this photo- a clue perhaps to why their is a limit.

Edited February 10, 2019 by Annie Bynnol

[WiseOwl182 10]

8 minutes ago, Annie Bynnol said:

You said the stretch of road was a mile long. It is, but, as nobody will be approaching those speeds at the beginning or end of that mile increasing the limit will only allow a section in the middle at which the limit will be observed. 

 

Towards Norton:

Section 1  A short accelerating section out of the junction with due care and attention to conditions and other users.

Section 2  The 'fast'  bit which includes an unprotected footpath crossing.

Section 3  A long deceleration down to the junction with road and footpath crossings, access to fields, lanes and minor roads with slow left turning and entering traffic including heavy plant crossing, school transports and farm vehicles.

 

I would suggest that Section 1+3 is about equal to Section 2 ie half a mile and not worth the fuss.

 

What fuss? Sticking up a few 50 discs?

 

 

[Annie Bynnol 612]

8 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

What fuss? Sticking up a few 50 discs?

 

 

Just for a start, what about the 40 signs? 

[Planner1 438]

35 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

What fuss? Sticking up a few 50 discs?

 

 

It isn’t that straightforward.

 

The legal orders that underpin the restrictions cost thousands to process.

 

Putting in higher speed limits can mean that other measures are required like crash barriers to protect street lighting.

[WiseOwl182 10]

59 minutes ago, Annie Bynnol said:

Just for a start, what about the 40 signs? 

They're already there. Take a few down and replace with 50s.

37 minutes ago, Planner1 said:

It isn’t that straightforward.

 

The legal orders that underpin the restrictions cost thousands to process.

 

Putting in higher speed limits can mean that other measures are required like crash barriers to protect street lighting.

I doubt a crash barrier is needed on Bochum Parkway, but quote me happy on making it a 50?

[walkermark 10]

Has anyone seen the deer on the side of the road near the old aerodrome? Does anyone know if they ever venture onto the road itself? or do they stick on the edges?