Overthrowing the government of Venezuela

[banjodeano 31]

6 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

same thing isnt it.....he doesnt have to be a member to pull any strings...

which you knew of course...

look how happy trump is with the Saudis, 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/21/18106352/trump-tweet-saudi-arabia-oil-prices

Trump thanks Saudi Arabia for low oil prices after letting it off the hook for Khashoggi murder

Trump asks Saudi Arabia to increase oil production

https://money.cnn.com/2018/06/30/news/trump-saudi-oil/index.html

which is a member of OPEC

strange that isnt it lol

[tinfoilhat 11]

2 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

Trump asks Saudi Arabia to increase oil production

https://money.cnn.com/2018/06/30/news/trump-saudi-oil/index.html

which is a member of OPEC

strange that isnt it lol

And did they?

[Phanerothyme 12]

We both know that what Trump says is likely to contradict the last thing he says and the next thing he says.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/17/dont-mention-the-oil-price-us-legal-threat-prompts-change-at-opec.html

So we have Trump thanking the Saudis but still threatening legal action against OPEC?

But back to OPEC, what evidence if any, or even speculation if you're lacking evidence, do you have that USA pulls strings at OPEC to deflate the oil price by ramping up output, and why would the US want to do that?

Isn't OPEC cutting production at the moment anyway? Trump not having much effect.

[banjodeano 31]

Just now, tinfoilhat said:

And did they?

i think they did, but i stand to be corrected...

They usually get what they want

Just now, Phanerothyme said:

We both know that what Trump says is likely to contradict the last thing he says and the next thing he says.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/17/dont-mention-the-oil-price-us-legal-threat-prompts-change-at-opec.html

So we have Trump thanking the Saudis but still threatening legal action against OPEC?

But back to OPEC, what evidence if any, or even speculation if you're lacking evidence, do you have that USA pulls strings at OPEC to deflate the oil price by ramping up output, and why would the US want to do that?

Isn't OPEC cutting production at the moment anyway? Trump not having much effect.

see my previous post..

[Phanerothyme 12]

3 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

And did they?

Nope.

[banjodeano 31]

2 minutes ago, Phanerothyme said:

Nope.

well this link would disagree with you....

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/11/opec-hikes-oil-output-in-september-as-irans-production-falls.html

OPEC hikes oil output in September as Iran's production falls, demand outlook softens

OPEC oil output increased by 132,000 barrels per day in September to nearly 32.8 million bpd.

[Phanerothyme 12]

That was before December when OPEC agreed to cut its overall production - by a total of 1.8 million bpd - despite strong and persistent US objection.

"The US pulled all the strings it could, but found they weren't really connected to anything"

Edited February 5, 2019 by Phanerothyme

[Phanerothyme 12]

20 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

well this link would disagree with you....

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/11/opec-hikes-oil-output-in-september-as-irans-production-falls.html

OPEC hikes oil output in September as Iran's production falls, demand outlook softens

OPEC oil output increased by 132,000 barrels per day in September to nearly 32.8 million bpd.

So an increase, for September only, of 0.13 million bpd, and then in December, OPEC's eventual agreement to cut production by 1.8 million bpd for the first 6 months of 2019.

 

Edited February 5, 2019 by Phanerothyme

[justinelle 0]

Everyone is familiar with the mainstream media coverage of Venezuela’s crisis.   You know that a brutal dictator, whose socialist policies have ravaged the country, is clinging to power with an iron grip, as his people beg him to leave.   This statement  not of my construction could also apply to France, where new draconian limitations of speech and protest are now enshrined in law.  Covering ones face is now a crime, so not just limited to those wearing the hijab. 

 

France,  exposes the hypocrisy the developed world has towards what should be subservient nations, who should let western corporations manage their natural resources, as such nations are just not capable of the responsibility. and should be treated like misguided children. 

 

Ordinary people after years of being lied to by governments understand  this is the beginnings of another CIA-backed regime change operation – or less politely  a coup.

 

John Bolton openly admitted that Washington wants Venezuela’s massive oil reserves.

 

Documents published by WikiLeaks https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/892675208901005312/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^892675208901005312&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rt.com%2Fop-ed%2F450741-venezuela-media-coverage-bias%2F

show that, according to US State Department cables, “oil” is Washington’s priority in Venezuela.

 

US has always loathed socialism and blaming “socialism” as a kind of catch-all for everything that’s wrong with Venezuela, and used in the UK  against Corbyn too. US economic sanctions on Venezuela, Iran North Korea, Syria, Russia and China,  are portrayed through the media to pressurize a government – when in reality those they hurt most are ordinary people. strangling a country’s economy until the citizens revolt,  and suddenly history repeats itself and its all aboard for regime change followed by a privatization blitz giving access to Venezuela's vast natural resources to US corporations.

 

The fact that the United States is threatening Venezuela with the use of force,”  is illegal under international law, appears to suggest ther is only one global law.  Whateverr Laws the US decides to state is now the new global law???   THe media pumps out the same old messages it used to justify  the total dstruction of Iraq, Syria and Libya : An evil regime, a suffering people – and the US,  the well-intentioned savior and bringer of freedom, and democracy is there to save the people, then rape the country of its natural resourses of course.

 

  For those that like to think everything is a conspiracy theory,  the WikiLeaks document there in black and white on an internal government document highlighted, details how the US uses “financial weapons” and “economic warfare” to get what it wants from uncooperative governments. For those that are unable to bother to read the WIKILEAKS document:  It states that the US“has a long history of conducting economic warfare valuable to any ARSOF UW campaign.” For the uninitiated, “ARSOF UW” refers to the ‘US Army Special Operations - Unconventional Warfare’ manual.

 

So why do the subjugated countries suddenly praise Trump in this proposed economic  RAPE, well they smell the financial blood frenzy, the potential to blackmail the Saudis at long last through oil production though the largest oil reserves in the world, forcing prices up or down at the turn of a tap.  And let us not forget the Western banking situation where since the 2008 financial blackmail they have accelerated the global debt to proportions never once dreamed of, and this might provide a temporary respite for the inevitable financial meltdown. 

 

JUST JOIN THE DOTS AND THE PICTURE BECOMES CLEAR

 

[woodview 10]

53 minutes ago, justinelle said:

Everyone is familiar with the mainstream media coverage of Venezuela’s crisis.   You know that a brutal dictator, whose socialist policies have ravaged the country, is clinging to power with an iron grip, as his people beg him to leave.   This statement  not of my construction could also apply to France, where new draconian limitations of speech and protest are now enshrined in law. 

 

 

 

 

 

So France has a brutal socialist dictator, clinging to power with an iron grip, as his people beg him to leave?

The rest of the post is barely worth reading if you begin with  that.

[justinelle 0]

3 hours ago, woodview said:

So France has a brutal socialist dictator, clinging to power with an iron grip, as his people beg him to leave?

The rest of the post is barely worth reading if you begin with  that.

If you checked up on the news it seems that is the opinion of a staggering amount of people, thus was trying to show the hyprocisy of western standards, but it obviously went like the rest of the post completely over your head...pity...cherry picking to promote an opinion about not being able to contribute anyhting to a greater understanding......love open mined people, Know any?  

[woodview 10]

9 hours ago, justinelle said:

If you checked up on the news it seems that is the opinion of a staggering amount of people, thus was trying to show the hyprocisy of western standards, but it obviously went like the rest of the post completely over your head...pity...cherry picking to promote an opinion about not being able to contribute anyhting to a greater understanding......love open mined people, Know any?  

I'm not cherry picking, just pointing out a ludicrous statement, that sets the scene for anything else you say afterwards.

France isn't a dictatorship, whatever you think of the politics of it. Carry on with the ridiculous comments if you think they are worthwhile, but you aren't going to convince anybody about the issue talking like that. Just my opinion, you do as you wish.