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Why will tehr be people at the bottom, is this some form of eugenics, predisposed people, sub humans, or is it designed into the system, social engineering?  How come people just accept thing without questioning?  

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7 hours ago, justinelle said:

Why will tehr be people at the bottom, is this some form of eugenics, predisposed people, sub humans, or is it designed into the system, social engineering?  How come people just accept thing without questioning?  

You might want to look up the definition of eugenics.

 

"the science of improving a population by controlled breeding to increase the occurrence of desirable heritable characteristics."

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 There are many ways to control breeding and the present one is brilliant,  There were 4.1 million children living in poverty in the UKin 2016-17. That's 30 per cent of children,  and they will all die prematurely thanks to their poor diet.   Diet is crucial in the early years of childhood development.  The process we love to use  for legalised mass murder  sanctions by the state in the UK is through  using the tool of NEGLECT.   So the seeds of eradicating the  poor has to be introduced to children, who we all know will be deprived  of essential nutrients which promote natural  / normal growth.

 

Through allowing nutrient starvation allows the immune system to not function properly, so the seed of their demise is guaranteed.   So many more millions of children over the last decade have immune systems that will allow natural processes to shorten their miserable lives,  as their educational as well as health will be affected thus the potential quality of their lives is to be pitied.   One could argu the governmetn is demonstrating care to the community.

 

When a government allows such processes to occur they are complicit.  If I gradually starve the elderly when working  in an old people’s home, or overdose them to shorten their lives, you might think that is a crime.  Well you are wrong, as such care homes are businesses and turnover allows profit, and corporate care is not about care its about profit, or did I miss something.   Every death is a bonus as every new person all adds cash to the bonuses.  Such policies are blamed on the SYSTEM thus its trebles all round.

 

The ruling elites and their political allies have hatched killing for profit plans for a few decades, remember the Liverpool Care Pathway where NHS trusts made 100’s of millions a year in extra funding for the process of shortening life?

 

So these children who are purposefully genetically damaged through developmental deprivations will equally produce offspring with a shorten lifespan, and if you want know how the lifespan are decreasing these day just check official figures, not forgetting rickets which has also returned to remind us of the good old days   

 

Anyway our factories produce goods with a limited life span, which is the foundation of consumerism, so the concept is far from new, just expanded to poor people.  What on earth could be wrong with a bit of covert population control?

 

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On 29/01/2019 at 00:09, justinelle said:

Why will tehr be people at the bottom, is this some form of eugenics, predisposed people, sub humans, or is it designed into the system, social engineering?  How come people just accept thing without questioning?  

Capitalism is about competition, like a race. There is only one winner but there will be lots of losers. It is indeed designed into the system and we don't question it because we are told this is fair; because after all, we all have a chance of winning the race, don't we? This is patently not true but we seem to be only just starting to question it. The playing field is not level, and some people will be trying to run uphill from the day they are born, while others will have the advantage of only running downhill in the best running shoes money can buy.

 

We are also never allowed to consider an alternative - do that and you are berated as a looney leftwinger, an enemy of the people, and a communist. But we have been brainwashed from birth to see anything but the current status quo as bad, and our capitalist system as good and the only route to success. Look at how Jeremy Corbyn, and Ed Milliband before him, have been villified and ridiculed.

 

However we no longer have 'responsible' capitalism which had certain brakes applied, and moral rules to make sure everyone benefitted to some extent, and allowed wealth to trickle down to fund services etc. Now we have rampant Capitalism with no holds barred, winner takes it all and devil take the hindmost. Now we have a very different kind of capitalism altogether.

 

It's evil and it's called Neoliberalism.

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On 29/01/2019 at 00:09, justinelle said:

Why will tehr be people at the bottom, is this some form of eugenics, predisposed people, sub humans, or is it designed into the system, social engineering?  How come people just accept thing without questioning?  

Unless society somehow becomes a dull lifeless flat plane where everyone has the same things and does the same things there will always be someone at the bottom of the ladder in life. You can improve life for those at the bottom all you want, but they will always be at the bottom relative to those with more success.

 

Humans aren't robots, some people will always be better at some things than others and should be rewarded accordingly. Do you think your quality of life and financial rewards should be the same as everyone else if you have made effort and they have not? Why?

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34 minutes ago, the_bloke said:

Unless society somehow becomes a dull lifeless flat plane where everyone has the same things and does the same things there will always be someone at the bottom of the ladder in life. You can improve life for those at the bottom all you want, but they will always be at the bottom relative to those with more success.

 

Humans aren't robots, some people will always be better at some things than others and should be rewarded accordingly. Do you think your quality of life and financial rewards should be the same as everyone else if you have made effort and they have not? Why?

The simple answer to your final question, the_bloke,  is that the OP is for some reason on a mission to drag everyone to the lowest possible level.

I haven't seen one authorative reference to support any of their claims - most probably because there isn't any.

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Humans are not robots, true robots do not excrete regularly, have to be lubricated with alcohol to be themselves, pretend they are unique individuals,   need mindless entertainment to supplement their routine predictable lives, mindlessly buy stuff that  sooner or later they chuck away, as trashing the world,  and treating the sea as its god given  sewer, when not either, being involved in domestic violence,, child exploitations, wars, rapes,  mindless killings, and the rest of the cultural values splashed on their TV entertainment boxes every day.  

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On 31/01/2019 at 05:40, Anna B said:

Capitalism is about competition, like a race. There is only one winner but there will be lots of losers. It is indeed designed into the system and we don't question it because we are told this is fair; because after all, we all have a chance of winning the race, don't we? This is patently not true but we seem to be only just starting to question it. The playing field is not level, and some people will be trying to run uphill from the day they are born, while others will have the advantage of only running downhill in the best running shoes money can buy.

 

We are also never allowed to consider an alternative - do that and you are berated as a looney leftwinger, an enemy of the people, and a communist. But we have been brainwashed from birth to see anything but the current status quo as bad, and our capitalist system as good and the only route to success. Look at how Jeremy Corbyn, and Ed Milliband before him, have been villified and ridiculed.

 

However we no longer have 'responsible' capitalism which had certain brakes applied, and moral rules to make sure everyone benefitted to some extent, and allowed wealth to trickle down to fund services etc. Now we have rampant Capitalism with no holds barred, winner takes it all and devil take the hindmost. Now we have a very different kind of capitalism altogether.

 

It's evil and it's called Neoliberalism.

I won’t. I’ll call you lazy and under achieving and blaming others for your failures. 

 

I didn't come from an affluent family. But my parents worked damn hard to ensure my brother and I had the best education we could get. We sacrificed a lot. We didn’t have holidays away or other luxuries people nowadays seem to think is a necessity such as SkyTV. We worked hard and achieved 1st class degrees from Russell Group universities. With that, we have landed very good jobs and now have a comfortable living. 

 

There is a level playing. There are opportunities for everyone to achieve. There is no guarantee that everyone should have the same end result and there shouldn’t be. 

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Capitalism is surely about having capital to start with, whereas capitalism today is based on debt, or no real money!!   In fact debt is created out of thin air and thus can in theory be created forever, and the debt just gets bigger.  The problem happens when debt, which has interest, finds the  rate rises, and then there is the inability to service the debt, which as what the banking collapse was all about, although the propaganda  mouthpieces, stated it was all caused by Labour.  

 

So how might one destroy for instance the NHS....simple get it into debt, so it has to pay the creditors off first, and as for people, well they can wait or conveniently die.     So debt is a tool of enslavement where individual and organisations can be threatened, frightened, and thus manipulated to do as they are told.  

 

So we have NHS  paying PFI which depletes it funding abilities, We have  students  owing 50K at 6%  making the debt almost double ever decade.   We have companies getting into debt to buy back their shares, thus artifically boosting the price as less shares, raising bonuses,  all pretending to contribute to the grater good when in reality,  the money goes to the deserving rich. 

 

Capitalism was once about competition,  but with private monopolies why compete when you can exploit instead.    We cannot compete with China when it comes to various forms of TECH,  so we sanction, fine or arrest  their executives, till they get the message, to slow down and stop outsmarting  the people who control global finance, the petro dollar.

 

People do compete, as the game is simply limited resources or opportunities that result in   thousands applying for the same job, university, funding, care, and so on.   Its a game like having a load of starving people follow you in an open truck where you slowly chucking food and sweets off so you can watch the people fight for themselves  and their children's survival.  So for the few dishing out the food, or funds its actually a great deal of sadistic fun,  watching people getting hurt just  trying to survive.  

 

So as for real as opposed to artificially created competition there is increasingly less of that , as its part of the divide and rule philosophy, to artificially create shortages as in PFI where billions a year go to bankers and other investors, and social services cannot cope as result, not enough nurses or doctors, but plenty of bonuses for the people at the top who run these services.

So today capitalism is dead, having been replaced with CRONEY CAPITALISM

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