Boycott Gillette razors.

[Resident 1,190]

2 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Oh that has made me smile! 😂😂

 

Dude, you can't Google '3rd wave feminism isn't about equality' and then use the fact that most of the search results contain those words as evidence that your assertion is true. It is simply evidence that if you Google a string of words, those words will be the first results returned.

 

I guess that you are in the third of the groups I defined above!

You obviously don't understand how Internet search engines work. You don't type in 'Onions' if you're looking for information on Apples. 

 

Typically, as you can't refute the results you attack the method of retrieval. 

 

11 minutes ago, Halibut said:

You clearly misunderstood what I was asking for. I can use Google as well as anyone else. What I was after is something that would substantiate your claim that feminists seek 'total control'. I believe that's a made up position that you're using to justify your dislike of women who want to be treated fairly and equally.

        So can you show me anything written or said by women that suggests they seek 'total control' over men. If it's really obvious it should be really easy.

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Did you bother reading any of the links? I did and several mention it. 

 

Your belief isn't evidence nor fact, especially in the fact of actual contradictory evidence. 

 

Again a typical trait of the 3rd wave. Anything that directly opposes your views doesn't exist. 

 

3rd wavers are pretty much the flat-earthers of femenism. 

[Halibut 12]

3 minutes ago, Resident said:

You obviously don't understand how Internet search engines work. You don't type in 'Onions' if you're looking for information on Apples. 

 

Typically, as you can't refute the results you attack the method of retrieval. 

 

Did you bother reading any of the links? I did and several mention it. 

 

Your belief isn't evidence nor fact, especially in the fact of actual contradictory evidence. 

 

Again a typical trait of the 3rd wave. Anything that directly opposes your views doesn't exist. 

 

3rd wavers are pretty much the flat-earthers of femenism. 

Should you really easy for you to give me an example of something they're saying that supports your claim then surely?

[Cyclone 10]

On 15/01/2019 at 09:58, Hots on said:

I'm sure you're aware of the hoo-hah over an advert for Gillette razors, so I won't link to it, which is loaded with feminine poison about how terrible males are. Insulting your primary market isn't a very smart move.

 

Men everywhere should now boycott Gillette products.

I don't shave using a razor, but I'll buy few packs just to show my approval for the advertising campaign.

There was nothing in the advert about how terrible how men were, it was a really positive advert about good men could be.

1 hour ago, Resident said:

You obviously don't understand how Internet search engines work. You don't type in 'Onions' if you're looking for information on Apples. 

 

Typically, as you can't refute the results you attack the method of retrieval. 

 

Did you bother reading any of the links? I did and several mention it. 

 

Your belief isn't evidence nor fact, especially in the fact of actual contradictory evidence. 

 

Again a typical trait of the 3rd wave. Anything that directly opposes your views doesn't exist. 

 

3rd wavers are pretty much the flat-earthers of femenism. 

You know that "several links mention it" isn't evidence that needs refuting right?

Those links are all just to a variety of opinions and beliefs, which you've just said isn't evidence or fact...  See how that works?

5 hours ago, Hots on said:

Good for you, but what I will say is this, still, after all the propaganda the other way the majority of women in most societies do want the traditional option, a stable marital or other union and a family with children, with a man being their main breadwinner. Third wave feminists sneer at these women for letting the proverbial side down, so to speak.

 

I see so much struggle around due to households with children feeling there needs to be two full time incomes which causes so dysfunctionality trying to juggle their time. Without grandparents virtually bringing their kids up for them they'd be screwed. 

It's funny how you think that you can speak for majority of the women.

[Cyclone 10]

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This advert may have a specific message but the reason it has caused such a stir is because it has invoked in people, men and women, their true feelings about gender difference in society generally. I believe that life and nature determine that men and women are different biologically, they have different brains and thus socialise and interact, even with each other differently. Deep down nearly everyone accepts this and its frustrating for people to have that square box in the corner of the room trying to tell them otherwise.

You're projecting.  That's what you believe and you really wished that everyone else believed it as well, but they don't.  And that makes you angry.  You're also fundamentally wrong about the implications of the minor biological differences that you use to justify your misogyny.

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Most women are happy with traditional gender roles, its in their natural biology, so in order to break this you have to apply very heavy pressure on society to get it to act in a non biological way by using intense propaganda through the media to try and reverse gender roles and force an inversion of them.
 

 

Once again you're claiming to speak for most women with no evidence that you've any idea what they want.  You invoke biology but with no understanding of it and in conflict with what is generally believed scientifically to be the case.

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If you stopped all this and allowed nature to take its course, you'd get the odd woman in high flying positions here and there but broadly speaking the traditional gender roles would proliferate with households and family's being much less dysfunctional than they are now.
 

 

This just appears to be your personal wishes, there's no evidence behind it.

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Most women respect men that think in this way...but they don't like them saying it.

And for your final trick you claim to be a mind reader, although only of women.   This one is just wish fulfillment, you want to believe that women respect you for your horrible views, despite the fact that they tell you they don't, and so to square that circle (and avoid the cognitive dissonance) they must be lying and actually think differently to the opinion they express!

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[WiseOwl182 10]

2 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

That is the key word. Seems.

 

How you react to this film reveals as much about the person watching it as the film itself. Looking at the replies here, as well as some of the other online discussion seems to divide the male response into three general groups.

 

The first group is one of modern, confident men who don't have a problem with women and think that the film is a refreshing change from the usual stale and outdated stereotypes. They are not misogynists and therefore see no implied slur on themselves as a man.

 

The second group is one of probably older, more conservative, men who tend to view the past as a time when they knew what was what and feel uncomfortable with many of the modern world's ways.

 

The third group is one of needy, very insecure men of all ages who view women as the enemy and who are more likely to subscribe to crackpot, right wing conspiracy theories of some great feminist plan to emasculate society.

For someone who doesn't like stereotyping and categorising people you're doing an awesome job. Which one do you think I fall into? I think 4) People who despise left wing hypocrisy.

 

I said "seems to", I meant "does". I will wait to see how you react the next time someone on here castigates a whole group of people on the basis of the actions of a minority. I predict double standards.

Edited January 19, 2019 by WiseOwl182

[WiseOwl182 10]

5 hours ago, Becky B said:

 

 

Do you think that some struggle may come from families actually (rather than just 'feeling') needing two incomes to keep a roof over their heads and food for the family?

Absolutely. One of the principle reasons for the house price boom, though, is because more women choosing to work means more spending power amongst families buying houses - dual incomes, increased demand. So in many cases, women have to work whether they want to or not because of feminism. Ironic isn't it? 

 

(I'm not saying women shouldn't work if they want, of course, I'm just pointing out an unintended but inevitable economic consequence).

[Top Cats Hat 10]

1 hour ago, Resident said:

You obviously don't understand how Internet search engines work. 

 

Typically, as you can't refute the results you attack the method of retrieval.

Clearly I do know how internet search engines work, hence my post.

 

I don't have to even look at your links to refute them as a simple look at the language used shows it is the usual crackpot misogynist conspiraloon nonsense shared by the far right and alt right on the internet.

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I have watched the advert just before replying on this thread, so it is fresh in my mind...

 

All it appears to be is a bunch of video tid-bits showing men in a dreadful light, and then showing men how they should be according to feminist propaganda.

 

And it's even racial when a black geezer is telling a white dude not to do something.

 

All the advert has done is highlight how under attack white men are in the modern day.

 

The 'advert' doesnt once mention what they are advertising - did you know it's meant to sell razor blades? The irony is, there was a backlash a while ago because Gillette charge more for female orientated razors than they do for the male ones! But, because the ad is attacking men, they seem to have forgotten this part and, somehow, Gillette are now a beacon of virtue for feminism.

 

Men are not evil! Masculinity is not toxic! If you deny this, you support toxic femininity as women are often just as, if not more, evil/violent/vindictive as men.

 

Halibut/Cyclone etc. - you might hate yourselves to the point where you need to virtue signal as a beta male, but i, personally, have done nothing wrong to warrant the abuse that the white man is receiving at this moment.

 

Boys and men need to be understood and nurtured, like girls and women do - not told that they are toxic and evil and the scourge of women-kind.

[Cyclone 10]

It shows some unhealthy, but common male behaviour and shows some alternative healthy male behaviour.  That's it.

 

Masculinity is not toxic, nobody claimed it was.  Toxic masculinity is toxic, they're not the same thing.

 

Nice attempt to ad hom, but I'm perfectly secure in my masculinity without having to act like a male appendage to prove it.  There is no abuse of the white man (you'll notice that there are none white men in that advert in fact) in that advert.  If you don't act like that, then what have you to worry?

 

You appear to have a victim complex and coming from that mindset have fundamentally misunderstood the point of the advert and taken it as a personal attack.

[Halibut 12]

5 hours ago, leviathan13 said:

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I have watched the advert just before replying on this thread, so it is fresh in my mind...

 

All it appears to be is a bunch of video tid-bits showing men in a dreadful light, and then showing men how they should be according to feminist propaganda.

 

For 'feminist propaganda' read 'not being a knob head'

 

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And it's even racial when a black geezer is telling a white dude not to do something.

God forbid - a black man telling a white man what (not) to do! This sentence speaks volumes about you.

 

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All the advert has done is highlight how under attack white men are in the modern day.

 

Ah, yes - the poor downtrodden white man. You do know white men are the most powerful group of people on the planet, right?

 

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The 'advert' doesnt once mention what they are advertising - did you know it's meant to sell razor blades? The irony is, there was a backlash a while ago because Gillette charge more for female orientated razors than they do for the male ones! But, because the ad is attacking men, they seem to have forgotten this part and, somehow, Gillette are now a beacon of virtue for feminism.

You say that as if it's a bad thing. (Which, I suppose for very frightened and inadequate men, it is.)

 

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Men are not evil! Masculinity is not toxic! If you deny this, you support toxic femininity as women are often just as, if not more, evil/violent/vindictive as men.

 

Wow. Toxic masculinity isn't a thing - it's women we should be scared of! Funny, but not very original.

 

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Halibut/Cyclone etc. - you might hate yourselves to the point where you need to virtue signal as a beta male, but i, personally, have done nothing wrong to warrant the abuse that the white man is receiving at this moment.

See my earlier comment about white men being the most powerful group of people on the planet. And maybe buy yourself a packet of tissues?

 

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Boys and men need to be understood and nurtured, like girls and women do - not told that they are toxic and evil and the scourge of women-kind.

Another very revealing sentence. I read the advert as saying men can do better, you read it as a threat. I think it's really funny that you suggest that men such as myself hate themselves. I'm pretty comfortable in my own skin thanks, but everything I've read from you suggests that you're the one with a problem.  You're really rather delicate and frightened that the nasty women are getting too big for their boots. Let me know your address by PM and I'll send you a year's supply of Kleenex and a copy of a really scary book by Germaine Greer.

 

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Absolutely fascinating to see the corrosion of views and ideals after susceptible folk wade through the internet's nether-regions for long enough.

[XXTickerXX 10]

Why does anyone care what a razor company has to say?

 

They have some great adverts though. 

 

 

Edited January 20, 2019 by XXTickerXX
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