Boycott Gillette razors.

[Becky B 31]

On 17/01/2019 at 17:19, Hots on said:

This advert may have a specific message but the reason it has caused such a stir is because it has invoked in people, men and women, their true feelings about gender difference in society generally. I believe that life and nature determine that men and women are different biologically, they have different brains and thus socialise and interact, even with each other differently. Deep down nearly everyone accepts this and its frustrating for people to have that square box in the corner of the room trying to tell them otherwise.

 

There is and always has been a proportion of women that are willing and perfectly capable of doing quite advanced male jobs/careers,  but they are a minority, and so ripping up all what society always was in order to artificially facilitate putting all women alongside men in all aspects of the world of work has made an enormous amount of people, both male and female very unhappy.

 

Most women are happy with traditional gender roles, its in their natural biology, so in order to break this you have to apply very heavy pressure on society to get it to act in a non biological way by using intense propaganda through the media to try and reverse gender roles and force an inversion of them.

 

If you stopped all this and allowed nature to take its course, you'd get the odd woman in high flying positions here and there but broadly speaking the traditional gender roles would proliferate with households and family's being much less dysfunctional than they are now.

 

Most women respect men that think in this way...but they don't like them saying it.

 

 

 

Wow.  I thought I liked my job.  I thought working hard, developing skills and critical thinking and following a profession where I feel I can make a difference to people was my choice, not something I was "told" to by a square box in the corner of the room.   I thought that being respected for the work I do was not linked to my gender.   I didn't know there were jobs that only a man could do, and that I might have taken a job from a man who deserves it and would be so much better at it than me, then everyone would be happy.

I thought being financially independent was empowering.

 

Clearly, I was wrong.  I need to find a man and give up work so I can stay at home, cooking and cleaning for him whilst he goes out and earns the money.  If I'm good I might even get an allowance from him.

That would obviously make me very happy, because it would be my natural biology...

[Halibut 12]

49 minutes ago, Becky B said:

Wow.  I thought I liked my job.  I thought working hard, developing skills and critical thinking and following a profession where I feel I can make a difference to people was my choice, not something I was "told" to by a square box in the corner of the room.   I thought that being respected for the work I do was not linked to my gender.   I didn't know there were jobs that only a man could do, and that I might have taken a job from a man who deserves it and would be so much better at it than me, then everyone would be happy.

I thought being financially independent was empowering.

 

Clearly, I was wrong.  I need to find a man and give up work so I can stay at home, cooking and cleaning for him whilst he goes out and earns the money.  If I'm good I might even get an allowance from him.

That would obviously make me very happy, because it would be my natural biology...

In Hots on's head it's still the 1950's...

[Hots on 10]

1 hour ago, Becky B said:

Wow.  I thought I liked my job.  I thought working hard, developing skills and critical thinking and following a profession where I feel I can make a difference to people was my choice, not something I was "told" to by a square box in the corner of the room.   I thought that being respected for the work I do was not linked to my gender.   I didn't know there were jobs that only a man could do, and that I might have taken a job from a man who deserves it and would be so much better at it than me, then everyone would be happy.

I thought being financially independent was empowering.

 

Clearly, I was wrong.  I need to find a man and give up work so I can stay at home, cooking and cleaning for him whilst he goes out and earns the money.  If I'm good I might even get an allowance from him.

That would obviously make me very happy, because it would be my natural biology...

Good for you, but what I will say is this, still, after all the propaganda the other way the majority of women in most societies do want the traditional option, a stable marital or other union and a family with children, with a man being their main breadwinner. Third wave feminists sneer at these women for letting the proverbial side down, so to speak.

 

I see so much struggle around due to households with children feeling there needs to be two full time incomes which causes so dysfunctionality trying to juggle their time. Without grandparents virtually bringing their kids up for them they'd be screwed. 

Edited January 19, 2019 by Hots on

[Resident 1,193]

30 minutes ago, Halibut said:

In Hots on's head it's still the 1950's...

Accusations of misogyny from the forum's biggest misandrist, now there's a surprise. 

 

Can't attack the post content so attacks the poster instead. 

[apelike 10]

1 hour ago, Becky B said:

I didn't know there were jobs that only a man could do,

There is only on I can think of.

[Resident 1,193]

18 minutes ago, Hots on said:

Good for you, but what I will say is this, still, after all the propaganda the other way the majority of women in most societies do want the traditional option, a stable marital or other union and a family with children, with a man being their main breadwinner. Third wave feminists sneer at these women for letting the proverbial side down, so to speak.

 

I see so much struggle around due to households with children feeling there needs to be two full time incomes which causes so dysfunctionality trying to juggle their time. Without grandparents virtually bringing their kids up for them they'd be screwed. 

Well that's the thing isn't it. 3rd wavers claiming to be doing it for all womankind but then dismissing women who state that they do not represent them or their ideology.

 

I'm all for equality of gender but I'm also for choice. If a woman chooses to take on "traditional" roles then that their choice. 

 

However 3rd wavers won't accept that and lambast them for it. 

 

 

3rd wavers fly the flag of equality but it's a false flag as they do not seek equality they seek total control. 

 

 

I await the misogyny insults They'll come from one of 4-5 posters.... 

Edited January 19, 2019 by Resident
Forum messed formatting

[Halibut 12]

25 minutes ago, Resident said:

 

 

 

3rd wavers fly the flag of equality but it's a false flag as they do not seek equality they seek total control. 

Quoted for lols.  Is there any evidence for this amusing claim, or it just straight out of your own head?

[Becky B 31]

1 hour ago, Hots on said:

Good for you, but what I will say is this, still, after all the propaganda the other way the majority of women in most societies do want the traditional option, a stable marital or other union and a family with children, with a man being their main breadwinner. Third wave feminists sneer at these women for letting the proverbial side down, so to speak.

 

I see so much struggle around due to households with children feeling there needs to be two full time incomes which causes so dysfunctionality trying to juggle their time. Without grandparents virtually bringing their kids up for them they'd be screwed. 

I'm clearly in a minority then. 

I don't sneer at people choosing roles for themselves that some people look down on - the point being that it's their choice, not some expectation that having a certain set of reproductive organs dictates what you can and can't do in the eyes of others.

 

Do you think that some struggle may come from families actually (rather than just 'feeling') needing two incomes to keep a roof over their heads and food for the family?

[Top Cats Hat 10]

On 17 January 2019 at 23:20, WiseOwl182 said:

It seems to be saying we need reminding not to, 

That is the key word. Seems.

 

How you react to this film reveals as much about the person watching it as the film itself. Looking at the replies here, as well as some of the other online discussion seems to divide the male response into three general groups.

 

The first group is one of modern, confident men who don't have a problem with women and think that the film is a refreshing change from the usual stale and outdated stereotypes. They are not misogynists and therefore see no implied slur on themselves as a man.

 

The second group is one of probably older, more conservative, men who tend to view the past as a time when they knew what was what and feel uncomfortable with many of the modern world's ways.

 

The third group is one of needy, very insecure men of all ages who view women as the enemy and who are more likely to subscribe to crackpot, right wing conspiracy theories of some great feminist plan to emasculate society.

[Resident 1,193]

3 hours ago, Halibut said:

Quoted for lols.  Is there any evidence for this amusing claim, or it just straight out of your own head?

Not at all sweetheart. 

 

Take a look at the link below. It's a list of Google search results, web pages, blogs etc all with a singular theme, 3rd wave feminism isn't about equality as I said before and the majority are written by women. 

 

I am surprised you asked me where this evidence is, thought you were an independent woman who could have located this by herself. 

 

Seems you still need to rely on a man... 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=3rd+wave+feminism+isn't+about+equality&oq=3rd+wave+feminism+isn't+about+equality&aqs=chrome..69i57j33.8418j0j7&client=ms-android-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

[Halibut 12]

20 minutes ago, Resident said:

Not at all sweetheart. 

 

Take a look at the link below. It's a list of Google search results, web pages, blogs etc all with a singular theme, 3rd wave feminism isn't about equality as I said before and the majority are written by women. 

 

I am surprised you asked me where this evidence is, thought you were an independent woman who could have located this by herself. 

 

Seems you still need to rely on a man... 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=3rd+wave+feminism+isn't+about+equality&oq=3rd+wave+feminism+isn't+about+equality&aqs=chrome..69i57j33.8418j0j7&client=ms-android-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

You clearly misunderstood what I was asking for. I can use Google as well as anyone else. What I was after is something that would substantiate your claim that feminists seek 'total control'. I believe that's a made up position that you're using to justify your dislike of women who want to be treated fairly and equally.

        So can you show me anything written or said by women that suggests they seek 'total control' over men. If it's really obvious it should be really easy.

44 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

That is the key word. Seems.

 

How you react to this film reveals as much about the person watching it as the film itself. Looking at the replies here, as well as some of the other online discussion seems to divide the male response into three general groups.

 

The first group is one of modern, confident men who don't have a problem with women and think that the film is a refreshing change from the usual stale and outdated stereotypes. They are not misogynists and therefore see no implied slur on themselves as a man.

 

The second group is one of probably older, more conservative, men who tend to view the past as a time when they knew what was what and feel uncomfortable with many of the modern world's ways.

 

The third group is one of needy, very insecure men of all ages who view women as the enemy and who are more likely to subscribe to crackpot, right wing conspiracy theories of some great feminist plan to emasculate society.

I think we know which group the OP is in.😐

[Top Cats Hat 10]

24 minutes ago, Resident said:

It's a list of Google search results, web pages, blogs etc all with a singular theme, 3rd wave feminism isn't about equality as I said before 

Oh that has made me smile! 😂😂

 

Dude, you can't Google '3rd wave feminism isn't about equality' and then use the fact that most of the search results contain those words as evidence that your assertion is true. It is simply evidence that if you Google a string of words, those words will be the first results returned.

 

I guess that you are in the third of the groups I defined above!