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4 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

 

Isn't voting for Brexit also engaging in democracy? Or is it only democratic when you agree with it?

The referendum didn't really engage with any of the issues to do with our membership of the EU as can be seen by the number of "No one told us about this!" questions that have arisen since 2016. 

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7 hours ago, L00b said:

Did you expect me to believe that or something? :suspect:

 

 

 

 

 

 
Right, me neither. Glad we understand each other :D

 

Believe what you like, it's the truth. I actually voted remain.

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4 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

 

Believe what you like, it's the truth. I actually voted remain.

There are several other posters that fit, or have previously fitted, that 'on the fence' position you claim to be in, in debate at least. Not that I'm after pigeon-holing you, I take every poster as they come. But since your posts are the only objective evidence at hand, I can only believe what I read: your posts include a lot oBrexity untruths and dog whistles, and don't read like those of remain voter (with Lockdoctor usefully providing that fabled exception which confirms the rule) or 'on the fence' person.

 

And it doesn't make a blind bit of difference to the debated points, nor to the situation the UK is in. Nothing to see here, carry on.

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12 hours ago, Longcol said:

I went to school in Penistone.

 

A number appeared to be descended from orcs and / or trolls.

Yorkshire has a lot of Viking history. 

 

Though apparently those despicable foreigners were made welcome eventually.

 

 

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13 hours ago, WiseOwl182 said:

We're past the (so called) 'austerity'.

Come on, hand on heart, did you really believe a word of what you just posted? Seriously...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/11/hammond-austerity-5bn-short-meeting-target-ifs-promise

 

£5bn just to stand still, austerity ending won't actually help depleted public services :rolleyes:

 

The disaster that austerity has wrought on public services, that led to the Brexit "protest vote" in the first place, is likely to continue for decades more as a result of.... yep... Brexit!

 

Slow clap guys... slow clap! :hihi:

 

 

 

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Seems like May is devoting her limited future as the P.M. who delivered Brexit,whatever the cost to the country.

She is in thrall to the right wing of her party and her only aim is to preserve the Conservative party.To say unify would be too strong a term.

At this stage ,due to her procrastination I am more fearful of a No Deal.

Corbyn sits on the fence waiting for the catastrophe that will allow him a chance of winning a position that he has done nothing to earn.

It all amounts to dereliction of duty by our Parliament and many will suffer as a result.

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8 minutes ago, RJRB said:

Seems like May is devoting her limited future as the P.M. who delivered Brexit,whatever the cost to the country.

She is in thrall to the right wing of her party and her only aim is to preserve the Conservative party.To say unify would be too strong a term.

At this stage ,due to her procrastination I am more fearful of a No Deal.

Corbyn sits on the fence waiting for the catastrophe that will allow him a chance of winning a position that he has done nothing to earn.

It all amounts to dereliction of duty by our Parliament and many will suffer as a result.

Sack all 650 and get 650 like you do for Jury service and I'd be more confident.

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14 minutes ago, RJRB said:

Corbyn sits on the fence waiting for the catastrophe that will allow him a chance of winning a position that he has done nothing to earn.

Corbyn is even more pro Brexit than Teresa May and if he thinks that he will not be seen as equally responsible for Brexit then he is even more naive that I've previously thought.

 

Even his own constituents in Islington are now defacing his billboards near his contituency office.

 

Corbyn has to go and sooner, rather than later. His comments on the Lisbon Treaty vote in Ireland make it impossible to lead any anti-Brexit campaign.

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1 hour ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Corbyn is even more pro Brexit than Teresa May and if he thinks that he will not be seen as equally responsible for Brexit then he is even more naive that I've previously thought.

 

Even his own constituents in Islington are now defacing his billboards near his contituency office.

 

Corbyn has to go and sooner, rather than later. His comments on the Lisbon Treaty vote in Ireland make it impossible to lead any anti-Brexit campaign.

A latest Yougove poll using the mrp model shows the Conservatives up 4 seats Labour down 12. Because SF never take theirs and counting the other parties this would give the Conservatives a working majority of 10. Considering the turmoil at the moment this would be incredible.

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7 hours ago, L00b said:

There are several other posters that fit, or have previously fitted, that 'on the fence' position you claim to be in, in debate at least. Not that I'm after pigeon-holing you, I take every poster as they come. But since your posts are the only objective evidence at hand, I can only believe what I read: your posts include a lot oBrexity untruths and dog whistles, and don't read like those of remain voter (with Lockdoctor usefully providing that fabled exception which confirms the rule) or 'on the fence' person.

 

And it doesn't make a blind bit of difference to the debated points, nor to the situation the UK is in. Nothing to see here, carry on.

Like you English is not my first language. I don't understand what you are saying about me.  Are you accusing me of telling pork pies, when I say I voted to  remain in the EU?   

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17 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

Like you English is not my first language. I don't understand what you are saying about me.  

It's couched in plain enough English, according to your posts you don't seem to have a problem reading or writing it.

17 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

Are you accusing me of telling pork pies, when I say I voted to  remain in the EU?   

Absolutely. Now, were you getting ready to post some faux outrage or something? Because it's not for the first time, by far. So this can't exactly come as a surprise to you.

 

All the same, and as posted again (for WiseOwl's benefit), whether you did vote remain or not, doesn't matter one bit. Neither in this debating thread, nor in the grand scheme of things.

 

It's no more than a vain appeal to non-existent authority: your arguments matter, not your 2016 vote. Because your vote, remain or leave, does not legitimise your arguments: only facts and logic do.

 

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15 minutes ago, L00b said:

It's couched in plain enough English, according to your posts you don't seem to have a problem reading or writing it.

Absolutely. Now, were you getting ready to post some faux outrage or something? Because it's not for the first time, by far. So this can't exactly come as a surprise to you.

 

All the same, and as posted again (for WiseOwl's benefit), whether you did vote remain or not, doesn't matter one bit. Neither in this debating thread, nor in the grand scheme of things.

 

It's no more than a vain appeal to non-existent authority: your arguments matter, not your 2016 vote. Because your vote, remain or leave, does not legitimise your arguments: only facts and logic do.

 

You are hilarious. I don't post faux outrage because I am not a fake person.  I have spoken English for many more years than I spoke the language of my birth which is why I have a better understanding of English than the  language of my birth.  I think  I am a normal person.  When I went to vote on 23rd June 2016,  I didn't know whether the UK would better off  or worse off, if the UK left the EU, which is why I voted to remain in the EU, which was a logical decision.   The majority voted to leave the EU which is my main reason for supporting the UK leaving the EU,  because the majority voted for that option in a two horse race.

 

My logic is,  if there is a referendum where the people are asked to make a choice of two options,  is that the option which  receives the most votes is implicated and everyone accepts the decision made by the majority.

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