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8 hours ago, I1L2T3 said:

Shall we shut down the ports as well?

It seems that's what  Kim Jong Penistone wants.

 

Edited by Mister Gee

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2 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

And so? Did you even read your link?

 

Jump to "Second Referendum", right at the bottom:

In the meeting of the European Council (the meeting of the heads of government of all twenty-seven European Union member states) in Brussels on 11–12 December 2008, Taoiseach Brian Cowen presented the concerns of the Irish people relating to taxation policy, family, social and ethical issues, and Ireland's policy of neutrality. Effectively Ireland's position was renegotiated, and the revised package was approved by the electorate in 2009.

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5 minutes ago, L00b said:

And so? Did you even read your link?

 

Jump to "Second Referendum", right at the bottom:

 

 

Ireland voted against the Lisbon Treaty. Top Cat's Hat was implying they're a nation of raging Europhiles. Hardly the reality is it?

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12 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

Ireland voted against the Lisbon Treaty. Top Cat's Hat was implying they're a nation of raging Europhiles. Hardly the reality is it?

 

Didn't Ireland vote against the Lisbon Treaty before getting asked again to give the "right" answer? No, they voted against the first Lisbon Treaty out of ignorance mostly (read your own link), and when their concerns were presented to -and taken on board in the draft Treaty- by the EU, they voted again on a different, slightly amended Treaty.
 
Democracy in action, right there.
 
As for being 'raging Europhiles', the EU is polling 82% approval rate with them currently. I don't know if that measure qualifies for 'raging' in your book (it very probably does), but it's 'Europhile' beyond a shadow of a doubt.
 
I happened to bump into a charming example, very recent arrival, at the townhall no later than last Saturday morning, as we were registering to vote at the upcoming EU elections. No different to all the other Irish people I've known for over 15 years now, in the Republic and beyond.
 
They know what the EU has done for them over the years, and which side their bread is buttered. They did the austerity bit after 2008, moreover under the ECB cosh, and have rocketed their way out if it since (offerring to repay the UK loan early as well, but the UK didn't accept as it wanted the full interests).
 
The UK hasn't, and you are where you are.
 
That's the reality. 
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7 minutes ago, L00b said:

 

Didn't Ireland vote against the Lisbon Treaty before getting asked again to give the "right" answer? No, they voted against the first Lisbon Treaty out of ignorance mostly (read your own link), and when their concerns were presented to -and taken on board in the draft Treaty- by the EU, they voted again on a different, slightly amended Treaty.
 
Democracy in action, right there.
 
As for being 'raging Europhiles', the EU is polling 82% approval rate with them currently. I don't know if that measure qualifies for 'raging' in your book (it very probably does), but it's 'Europhile' beyond a shadow of a doubt.
 
They know what the EU has done for them over the years, and which side their bread is buttered. They did the austerity bit after 2008, moreover under the ECB cosh, and have rocketed their way out if it since (offerring to repay the UK loan early as well, but the UK didn't accept as it wanted the full interests).
 
The UK hasn't, and you are where you are.
 
That's the reality. 

Neat!

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13 minutes ago, L00b said:

 

Didn't Ireland vote against the Lisbon Treaty before getting asked again to give the "right" answer? No, they voted against the first Lisbon Treaty out of ignorance mostly (read your own link), and when their concerns were presented to -and taken on board in the draft Treaty- by the EU, they voted again on a different, slightly amended Treaty.
 
Democracy in action, right there.
 
As for being 'raging Europhiles', the EU is polling 82% approval rate with them currently. I don't know if that measure qualifies for 'raging' in your book (it very probably does), but it's 'Europhile' beyond a shadow of a doubt.
 
I happened to bump into a charming example, very recent arrival, at the townhall no later than last Saturday morning, as we were registering to vote at the upcoming EU elections. No different to all the other Irish people I've known for over 15 years now, in the Republic and beyond.
 
They know what the EU has done for them over the years, and which side their bread is buttered. They did the austerity bit after 2008, moreover under the ECB cosh, and have rocketed their way out if it since (offerring to repay the UK loan early as well, but the UK didn't accept as it wanted the full interests).
 
The UK hasn't, and you are where you are.
 
That's the reality. 

The UK hasn't what?

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It's not bad in itself, but better to read it, digest it, follow up some sources and then pronounce on it.

 

Just now, WiseOwl182 said:

The UK hasn't what?

rocketed it's way out if the 2008 crash/recession like Ireland has.

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2 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Quoting Wikipedia. Oh dear....

Did the Irish rejection of the (initial attempt at) the Lisbon Treaty not happen then? Has someone made it up on Wikipedia? Did I dream it in 2008?

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No you didn't dream it, but you didn't read L00bs post either, evidently.

 

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Just now, WiseOwl182 said:

The UK hasn't what?

Got itself past the post-2008 austerity: you're still wallowing aimlessly in the middle of it, and you've voted for a second helping with Brexit -twice when you factor the 2017GE- just as the current global economic cycle is fast running out of puff.

 

Impeccable timing, lads.

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