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1 hour ago, woodview said:

Vote in a party that will fund the areas that you want funding, rather than allowing an external organisation to do it, using a fraction of the money paid in.

That organisation isn't simply external, it's us.. we're part of it, and replicating the systems we enjoy as an EU member is going to cost more than our membership fee... so that "fraction" has already been spent :loopy:

 

There is no Brexit dividend.

 

10 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

It subsidises the countries that are net benefactors from the EU, who get out more than they put in - i.e. most members apart from the UK, Germany and France.

If that's all it does, how come leaving is going to cost more than our membership fee ever did?

 

Edited by Magilla

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UK-Japan trade talks stall

https://www.ft.com/content/5ce60af2-2b90-11e9-a5ab-ff8ef2b976c7

Tokyo is confident that it can secure better terms from the UK than it did in negotiations with the much larger EU, and is not willing to duplicate the existing treaty precisely in either a bilateral deal or in talks for the UK to join the Trans-Pacific Partnership group.

 

Imagine my surprise to read that something that's been dismissed as "project fear" is actually happening :rolleyes:

 

Turns out.. size does matter! :hihi:

 

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8 minutes ago, Magilla said:

Tokyo is confident that it can secure better terms from the UK than it did in negotiations with the much larger EU, and is not willing to duplicate the existing treaty precisely in either a bilateral deal or in talks for the UK to join the Trans-Pacific Partnership group.

Again, this was something that we knew about before the referendum and was dismissed by the crackpots, cranks, xenophobes and vested interests.

 

There are very good reasons for the UK to belong to a larger trading bloc of our neighbours, but what is yet to come is that if we do leave the EU, is the prospect of the carcass of our economy being picked over by vultures. Many Leave supporters are delighting in sticking two fingers up at the EU and anyone else that they perceive as 'foreign', yet seem to think that these 'foreigners' will come to our rescue once we have put our own economy on the bonfire.

 

I know that we are not supposed to say that Leave voters were stupid but an awful lot of them are coming across like that. 🙄

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3 hours ago, Magilla said:

 

 

If that's all it does, how come leaving is going to cost more than our membership fee ever did?

 

It isn't in direct relation to future membership fees. Any economic hit (or boom) is a separate matter to net contributors Vs net benefactors of membership fees.

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Oh crikey, after leaving the corrupt EU and the food banks have no grub, we will have to eat our children to survive.

 

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16 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

Any economic hit (or boom) is a separate matter to net contributors Vs net benefactors of membership fees.

Quite, which is why when asked about costs, it's odd that contributors/benefactors is all some people seem to be able to go on about :suspect:

 

The EU does much more than just share fee's around as some seem to believe.

 

 

 

 

16 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

Oh crikey, after leaving the corrupt EU and the food banks have no grub, we will have to eat our children to survive.

Don't be daft, start on the pets first :loopy:

 

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The latest addition to the Brexit Lemmings list alongside Nissan workers in Sunderland and the Airbus workers in Broughton are the thousands of English pensioners in Spain, the majority of whom voted Leave, who are coming to the realisation that in the event of a no deal Brexit, they will no longer be entitled to ANY Spanish healthcare including A&E.

 

Again this is something which was brought up before the referendum but was dismissed as a scare tactic by the crackpots, cranks and liars of the Leave campaign.

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3 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

The latest addition to the Brexit Lemmings list alongside Nissan workers in Sunderland and the Airbus workers in Broughton are the thousands of English pensioners in Spain, the majority of whom voted Leave, who are coming to the realisation that in the event of a no deal Brexit, they will no longer be entitled to ANY Spanish healthcare including A&E.

 

Again this is something which was brought up before the referendum but was dismissed as a scare tactic by the crackpots, cranks and liars of the Leave campaign.

thought, EU folks here, and expats there were the first people to be sorted out in the deal? to the disdain of certain brextremists who said it was our main card

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20 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

are the thousands of English pensioners in Spain, the majority of whom voted Leave

Source please?

Edited by WiseOwl182

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8 minutes ago, melthebell said:

thought, EU folks here, and expats there were the first people to be sorted out in the deal? to the disdain of certain brextremists who said it was our main card

The reciprocal heath arrangements between European countries is organised through the EU European Health Insurance Card Scheme.

 

The moment we leave the EU without a deal that scheme will cease to operate for all UK citizens in the European Economic Area except those with dual citizenship of another EU country (or Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein) 

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7 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

Source please?

Either the YouGov or IPSOS analysis of the 2016 vote.

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1 minute ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Either the YouGov or IPSOS analysis of the 2016 vote.

Link please?

 

The majority of ex pats weren't even eligible to vote.

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