Magilla 510 #3373 Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/21/liam-fox-post-brexit-trade-plan-go-unscrutinised But something that has slipped by virtually unnoticed is the government’s plan to include investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS) mechanisms in future trade deals. ISDS clauses let foreign investors sue national governments for introducing policies that harm their profits. They have led to global corporations taking governments to secretive private arbitration courts in cases that can cost taxpayers billions. "Take back control" NOTE: The European Commissions July 2017 factsheet on the EU-Japan EPA: "the old investor-to-state dispute settlement, is not acceptable. For the EU ISDS is dead” Edited February 21, 2019 by Magilla Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell 863 #3374 Posted February 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Magilla said: It'll be interesting to see the difference between any Japan deal with the UK and the one the EU has secured. you mean everything? lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Penistone999 10 #3375 Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, tinfoilhat said: Watching a programme now about the Irish border. If I heard it right, 50k cross the border every day - and over 100 million crossings per year. love to see how no-deal supporters can sortthat out. Oh of course, they don’t give a toss. Simples solution ....... use the Irish sea as the border. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat 11 #3376 Posted February 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Penistone999 said: Simples solution ....... use the Irish sea as the border. The DUP won’t like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla 510 #3377 Posted February 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, melthebell said: you mean everything? lol Seems we're desperate... bend over sir! Still, I hear Liam Fox has an Atlantic Bridge to sell to leave voters! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Litotes 63 #3378 Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Penistone999 said: Simples solution ....... use the Irish sea as the border. So you are advocating the break up of the United Kingdom? How selfish - "I'm all right, jacques - you can fend for yourselves" - mind you ever since the 23rd June 2016 we've been hearing that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol 601 #3379 Posted February 21, 2019 2 hours ago, apelike said: Simple, dont have a border as its not legally required to have one. So no checks and anything and anybody can come into the country via the Republic and Northern Ireland................................ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Phanerothyme 12 #3380 Posted February 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Longcol said: So no checks and anything and anybody can come into the country via the Republic and Northern Ireland................................ Sounds like free movement of goods, capital, people and contraband brussel sprouts to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat 10 #3381 Posted February 21, 2019 2 hours ago, apelike said: Simple, dont have a border as its not legally required to have one. Really? It is a legal requirement under international trade law. Any countries we propose to do a post-Brexit trade deal with, will require the policing of any border where different tariffs apply either side of it. That is why the only possible solution will require the UK (or part of the UK) being in some form of customs union with the EU. So we can either be in a customs union as a member of the EU and play a part in making the rules or we can be in a customs union outside of the EU and be subject to EU rules but play no part in making these rules. It is a no brainer. Stay, get the benefits and have a say in the rules. The Brexit option is just plain stupid and makes little sense, but then we were told this often enough before the referendum. 🙄 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol 601 #3382 Posted February 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, Phanerothyme said: Sounds like free movement of goods, capital, people and contraband brussel sprouts to me. Psssssssssssssst - wanna score some choux bruxelles? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
apelike 10 #3383 Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said: Really? Yes. 24 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said: It is a legal requirement under international trade law. As far as I know no such law exists. If it does then maybe you can provide a link to it? Edited February 22, 2019 by apelike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol 601 #3384 Posted February 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, apelike said: As far as I know no such law exists. If it does then maybe you can provide a link to it? Why not make it even easier and get rid of all borders and checks - it'd save hours of mucking about at the channel / north sea ports - not to mention queuing at airports 😎 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...