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[ANGELFIRE1 10]

19 minutes ago, Cyclone said:

Bizarre, very bizarre.

The polls are still quite tight, but there have been plenty of people who have publicly said they'd change from leave to remain, now that they finally understand.

And quite a few Remainers now they understand the hostility shown to us from the corrupt EU say they will change from Remoan to Leave. Not bizarre, just common sense.

 

Angel1.

[whiteowl 54]

10 hours ago, lottiecass said:

Of course you are spot on, that's a present from the eu for Brexit.

The EU knew about Brexit in 2012-3 did they ? That's clever of them ! That is of course when the trade deal negotiations started, they do seem to take a while to work out as we'll be finding out soon....

To say that the Japan deal was struck because of Brexit is mis-informed at best.

 

http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/in-focus/eu-japan-economic-partnership-agreement/

 

http://bruegel.org/2018/10/the-eu-japan-economic-partnership-agreement/

Edited February 20, 2019 by whiteowl
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[Cyclone 10]

43 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

And quite a few Remainers now they understand the hostility shown to us from the corrupt EU say they will change from Remoan to Leave. Not bizarre, just common sense.

 

Angel1.

Only idiots think that the EU is being hostile.

It's acting in it's own interests in exactly the way the remain campaign said it would.  Of course you dismissed it as project fear back then.  Now it's somehow still not the leavers fault.  Perhaps this is the root cause of leavers, it's never their fault, no matter how many stupid decisions they make, how many lies they tell or believe, it's never their fault.

10 hours ago, lottiecass said:

Of course you are spot on, that's a present from the eu for Brexit.

A perfect example.  It's never our fault is it.  Always someone else.

Edited February 20, 2019 by Cyclone

[alchresearch 214]

34 minutes ago, whiteowl said:

The EU knew about Brexit in 2012-3 did they ? That's clever of them !

It was hardly a secret. From July 2012:

 

David Cameron says Britain will get vote on leaving EU, but not yet

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/jul/02/david-cameron-europe-referendum

[Cyclone 10]

So, as a way to cause the UK problems with a speculative future brexit that politicians here and in europe expected to never happen, they (which still included us) entered into trade negotiations with Japan?

Edited February 20, 2019 by Cyclone

[Cyclone 10]

1 hour ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

And quite a few Remainers now they understand the hostility shown to us from the corrupt EU say they will change from Remoan to Leave. Not bizarre, just common sense.

 

Angel1.

The EU are still NOT being hostile, no more than they were a few minutes ago.  They're behaving exactly as we knew and expected they would. 

 

The EU have said, you can't leave the club and retain all the benefits of being in the club.  Oh, and if you're out of the customs union then this land border we will share will need customs handling.

That's it.  What part of that are you characterising as particularly hostile?

Edited February 20, 2019 by Cyclone

[lil-minx92 10]

It'll be reyt! That millennium bug chaos never materialised either!

[neworderishere 0]

22 minutes ago, lil-minx92 said:

It'll be reyt! That millennium bug chaos never materialised either!

thats very true i remember the scaremongering that went on about that! what happend ?not a blip but the remoaners want it to.

[altus 538]

35 minutes ago, lil-minx92 said:

It'll be reyt! That millennium bug chaos never materialised either!

 

11 minutes ago, neworderishere said:

thats very true i remember the scaremongering that went on about that! what happend ?not a blip but the remoaners want it to.

As someone who spent the 18 months before the end of the millennium checking computer systems to ensure they wouldn't have a problem can I just say you two are talking absolute rubbish.

 

Y2K was a known problem that people has plenty of advanced knowledge of. Any new systems introduced in the previous decade were developed to be Y2K compliant and many piecemeal updates to older systems also happened during that time. The last year was basically just double checking everything.

 

Brexit is trying to adapt to unknown changes with an unknown, possibly very short, time frame - and the probable changes are far wider in scope (legal, etc. not just updating computer systems).

 

To claim Brexit won't cause problems because Y2K didn't is astoundingly naive.

[tzijlstra 11]

1 hour ago, altus said:

 

As someone who spent the 18 months before the end of the millennium checking computer systems to ensure they wouldn't have a problem can I just say you two are talking absolute rubbish.

 

Y2K was a known problem that people has plenty of advanced knowledge of. Any new systems introduced in the previous decade were developed to be Y2K compliant and many piecemeal updates to older systems also happened during that time. The last year was basically just double checking everything.

 

Brexit is trying to adapt to unknown changes with an unknown, possibly very short, time frame - and the probable changes are far wider in scope (legal, etc. not just updating computer systems).

 

To claim Brexit won't cause problems because Y2K didn't is astoundingly naive.

I made quite a nice packet of checking Y2K compliancy as a 'whizzkid', a lot like Rees-Mogg and Boris are with Brexit, except that I didn't have millions to start off with

 

Y2K was real, despite what people thought afterwards, I replaced/upgraded several legacy systems that would have caused economic damage to SMEs. As you say, being aware of the potential disruption helped a lot.

[Magilla 510]

1 hour ago, neworderishere said:

thats very true i remember the scaremongering that went on about that! what happend ?not a blip but the remoaners want it to.

Lol, Y2K didn't happen *specifically* because the warnings weren't dismissed as 'project fear' and measures were taken to prevent it.

 

It couldn't be further from the truth to suggest it wouldn't have had any effect without the significant effort put in to prevent it.

 

It's called "having a plan", the complete opposite of the shambles that is Brexit.

 

 

Edited February 20, 2019 by Magilla

[neworderishere 0]

2 minutes ago, Magilla said:

Lol, Y2K didn't happen *specifically* because the warnings weren't dismissed as 'project fear' and measures were taken to prevent it.

 

It couldn't be further from the truth to suggest it wouldn't have had any effect without the significant effort put in to prevent it.

 

The complete opposite of the shambles that is Brexit.

rubbish, the big companies did all they could to sell this fix and that fix and scared big businesses and organisations into running around like headless chickens to safeguard their software etc and in the end nothing happend not because of the threat but in spite of! a few people made a lot of money. we didnt do anything to our computer systems at the time and guess what everything was ok 1/1/2000! any effect brexit may or may not have will be overcome and we will be better off. new order is here!