WiseOwl182   10 #2641 Posted February 11, 2019 41 minutes ago, andyofborg said: you're genes will be mostly european *Your  You don't know his ancestry, and what even is "European"? If you go back far enough we have genes from everywhere, but we are the nationality of the country we're born in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3   10 #2642 Posted February 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, Shunter said: In all my years I have never once proclaimed that I am European. Never. When I'm asked on a form what nationality I am, I've always said British. If there was any substance to this brand new theory that we Brits are now European Continentals, it must have been since the advent of Brexit!! I have no axes to grind with anyone and just wish this whole Brexit cafuffle would end, but I will never be a European. Whichever way it ends up. Nobody is asking you to say you are EUropean first 4 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said: *Your  You don't know his ancestry, and what even is "European"? If you go back far enough we have genes from everywhere, but we are the nationality of the country we're born in. Nationality versus ethnicity  Nice twist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WiseOwl182   10 #2643 Posted February 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, I1L2T3 said:  Nationality versus ethnicity  Nice twist  Where do 'Europeans' originate from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3 Â Â 10 #2644 Posted February 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said: Â Where do 'Europeans' originate from? Same place as English people Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WiseOwl182 Â Â 10 #2645 Posted February 11, 2019 Just now, I1L2T3 said: Same place as English people Where's that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Shunter   0 #2646 Posted February 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, RJRB said: Not sure what point you are making. Europe is a continent made up of individual countries from the Scandinavia to the Mediterranean. Like you I have filled in many a form with my nationality as British,but I do acknowledge that physically we sit in the continent of Europe.   I think it's because I don't acknowledge being European at all. Never have done and certainly never spoke or said it out loud to anyone, ever. As I said earlier, I can only assume it's current presence in general talk because of Brexit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3 Â Â 10 #2647 Posted February 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said: Where's that? The world Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Penistone999   10 #2648 Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Top Cats Hat said: And I think that most of us don't class ourselves as stupid but that doesn't mean that there are very few stupid people.  Parochialism, nationalism and tribalism have no place in the twenty first century! Speak for yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WiseOwl182 Â Â 10 #2649 Posted February 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, I1L2T3 said: The world Exactly. So it's meaningless. Classing oneself as British or English before European is perfectly valid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3   10 #2650 Posted February 11, 2019 Just now, WiseOwl182 said: Exactly. So it's meaningless. Classing oneself as British or English before European is perfectly valid. I never said it want valid. I’d consider myself  English. Then British. Then European.  And I’m a hardcore remainer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WiseOwl182   10 #2651 Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Top Cats Hat said: The Irish are even more of an island race with an even greater sense of identity than we have, yet the vast majority of them have no problem seeing themselves as European. Why are the Irish even more and an "island race"? Is Ireland more of an island than Britain?  And didn't Ireland vote against the Lisbon Treaty before getting asked again to give the "right" answer? Edited February 11, 2019 by WiseOwl182 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #2652 Posted February 11, 2019 1 minute ago, WiseOwl182 said: Why are the Irish even more and an "island race"? Is Ireland more of an island than Britain? Have you never heard of the Channel Tunnel?  It's been around for a couple of decades now. 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...