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[Litotes 63]

20 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

Linked source please. Yet another unsubstantiated claim.

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/if-a-second-eu-referendum-were-held-today-how-would-you-vote/

https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-uk-poll-support-for-staying-in-eu-at-highest-level-since-referendum/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-poll-leave-remain-eu-vote-theresa-may-yougov-peoples-vote-referendum-a8733541.html

 

Take your pick, weasel your way round the facts, both in the post above and in the published data - facts - something many leavers are strangers to...

 

 

[WiseOwl182 10]

40 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

36.7% of the electorate which is 25% of the population voted to leave the EU. The rest didn't.

 

Every credible poll since the referendum has shown a majority in favour of remaining in the EU.

 

So yes, I think that we can safely say that the majority of UK citizens do not wish to leave the EU.

 

 

What percentage of the electorate VOTED to Remain? Hint: it's lower than Leave.

29 minutes ago, Litotes said:

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/if-a-second-eu-referendum-were-held-today-how-would-you-vote/

https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-uk-poll-support-for-staying-in-eu-at-highest-level-since-referendum/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-poll-leave-remain-eu-vote-theresa-may-yougov-peoples-vote-referendum-a8733541.html

 

Take your pick, weasel your way round the facts, both in the post above and in the published data - facts - something many leavers are strangers to...

 

 

What were the polls saying in the run up to the only one that mattered? How accurate do you think they are?

[Car Boot 10]

The Financial Times aggressively promoted economic austerity for the poorest in the UK while supporting our EU membership.

 

It is an enemy of the working class and a defender of the parasitic wealthy elite who control the country and are desperate for us to Remain in the EU.

Edited February 9, 2019 by Car Boot

[Top Cats Hat 10]

23 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

What percentage of the electorate VOTED to Remain? Hint: it's lower than Leave.

What were the polls saying in the run up to the only one that mattered? How accurate do you think they are?

It is totally irrelevant how many people voted remain in a non binding non compulsory poll designed to get Cameron out of trouble with UKIP.

 

What is relevant however, is that in a poll driven by fake news, dog whistle slogans, relentless racist and xenophobic headlines in national newspapers, millions of dollars spent by Russia and the far right and alt right in the US, the Leave campaign couldn't even persuade 40% of the electorate to support them.

 

On the subject of polls, if EVERY credible poll since 2016 including one of 20,000 people say that between 52-56% of those polled support remaining in the EU you can be fairly sure that the majority of UK citizens support remaining in the EU.

 

Repeating the 'but polls get it wrong' mantra just makes you look stupid.

[Longcol 597]

35 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

The Financial Times aggressively promoted economic austerity for the poorest in the UK while supporting our EU membership.

 

It is an enemy of the working class and a defender of the parasitic wealthy elite who control the country and are desperate for us to Remain in the EU.

What about the parasitic wealthy elite - BoJo, Rees - Mogg, Farage etc - that are desperate for us to leave the EU so they can trash workers rights, flog off the NHS to the highest bidder and whatever other jolly wheezes they got up their sleeves. Isn't going to be the working class who benefit from Brexit.

 

"We'll keep the hedge fund flying here"

[apelike 10]

2 hours ago, Litotes said:

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/if-a-second-eu-referendum-were-held-today-how-would-you-vote/

https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-uk-poll-support-for-staying-in-eu-at-highest-level-since-referendum/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-poll-leave-remain-eu-vote-theresa-may-yougov-peoples-vote-referendum-a8733541.html

 

Take your pick, weasel your way round the facts, both in the post above and in the published data - facts - something many leavers are strangers to...

Polls are just that polls, and the only true fact is that they are based on a small representative sample taken by dodgy means with questions designed to get the answers wanted and that is all.

 

1 hour ago, Top Cats Hat said:

It is totally irrelevant how many people voted remain in a non binding non compulsory poll designed to get Cameron out of trouble with UKIP.

Yes it is now irrelevant as parliament have already approved and voted on the result making it binding, something some still fail to understand. Time to move along!

Edited February 10, 2019 by apelike

[El Cid 214]

2 hours ago, Longcol said:

"We'll keep the hedge fund flying here"

 

None of this is about a conspiracy of the elite against the working class, its a few individuals of crave power and maybe wealth, Bo-Jo and Farage ....

[Lex Luthor 10]

15 hours ago, taxman said:

They were found to have broken the law.  Their "victory" was built on deceit.

At least they didn't steal £8, 000000 from the public coffers to disseminate their deceit. 

[Lex Luthor 10]

3 hours ago, Longcol said:

What about the parasitic wealthy elite - BoJo, Rees - Mogg, Farage etc - that are desperate for us to leave the EU so they can trash workers rights, flog off the NHS to the highest bidder and whatever other jolly wheezes they got up their sleeves. Isn't going to be the working class who benefit from Brexit.

 

"We'll keep the hedge fund flying here"

Tony Benn RIP and Dennis Skinner wasn't/isn't scared to vote with their opposite numbers if it meant staying true to what they believe in. 

 

They had the sense to see the bigger picture / longer game. 

Edited February 10, 2019 by Lex Luthor

[Car Boot 10]

8 hours ago, Longcol said:

What about the parasitic wealthy elite - BoJo, Rees - Mogg, Farage etc - that are desperate for us to leave the EU so they can trash workers rights, flog off the NHS to the highest bidder and whatever other jolly wheezes they got up their sleeves. Isn't going to be the working class who benefit from Brexit.

 

"We'll keep the hedge fund flying here"

A tiny number of individuals belonging to the establishment elite support Leaving the EU, for their own reasons. The overwhelming majority desperately want the UK to Remain in the EU. This includes the banks and global finance, big business, over eighty per cent of our political class, the heads of the civil service, the rich, wealthy out of touch celebrities and the affluent middle class.

[WiseOwl182 10]

9 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

It is totally irrelevant how many people voted remain in a non binding non compulsory poll designed to get Cameron out of trouble with UKIP.

 

What is relevant however, is that in a poll driven by fake news, dog whistle slogans, relentless racist and xenophobic headlines in national newspapers, millions of dollars spent by Russia and the far right and alt right in the US, the Leave campaign couldn't even persuade 40% of the electorate to support them.

 

 

What must be even more relevant then, by definition, is that remaining in the EU, which is apparently so wonderful, could only muster an even lower percentage of the electorate, whether you measure that by percentage of turnout or percentage of all eligible voters.

 

It. Was. Less. Than. Voted. Leave. Which part can't you understand?

 

 

[I1L2T3 10]

6 hours ago, Lex Luthor said:

At least they didn't steal £8, 000000 from the public coffers to disseminate their deceit. 

Most of what they warned about is actually happening. That is not deceit is it.