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25 minutes ago, ez8004 said:

So why won’t the government commit to the future development of the South West to the same levels as the EU if it is so simple?

 

You really are narrow minded and can’t see the much bigger picture. 

 

Yes, we are a net contributor to the EU budget. But do we really get NOTHING in return as you imply? Access to a market worth $19.1 TRILLION is not worth it. Is this access for free? Wait a minute, it isn’t free as shown in current negotiations. 

 

We are exploiting this single market market more than most by far. So is it really a surprise that we should contribute more?

Vote in a party that will fund the areas that you want funding, rather than allowing an external organisation to do it, using a fraction of the money paid in. It is symbolic of the malaise that exists in British politics.

If you don't like it, change it.

 

Access to that market doesn't require a ridiculous funding, or  acentral Parliament. net recipients also have access to it, remember. We aren't exploiting it more than most, we have a negative balance of trade. But that is another story.

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36 minutes ago, ez8004 said:

So why won’t the government commit to the future development of the South West to the same levels as the EU if it is so simple?

 

You really are narrow minded and can’t see the much bigger picture. 

 

Yes, we are a net contributor to the EU budget. But do we really get NOTHING in return as you imply? Access to a market worth $19.1 TRILLION is not worth it. Is this access for free? Wait a minute, it isn’t free as shown in current negotiations. 

 

We are exploiting this single market market more than most by far. So is it really a surprise that we should contribute more?

Imports far exceed exports to the eu, so we aren't exploiting the single market that well, so why contribute more?

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14 minutes ago, lottiecass said:

Imports far exceed exports to the eu, so we aren't exploiting the single market that well, so why contribute more?

So, you're not exploiting a (the 1st or 2nd global-) market of 500m on your doorstep, the whole of which you can access no differently than any other part of the UK, 'all that well'...

 

...and Brexiting is going to improve that state of affairs how?

24 minutes ago, woodview said:

Vote in a party that will fund the areas that you want funding, rather than allowing an external organisation to do it, using a fraction of the money paid in. It is symbolic of the malaise that exists in British politics.

If you don't like it, change it.

 

Access to that market doesn't require a ridiculous funding, or  acentral Parliament. net recipients also have access to it, remember. We aren't exploiting it more than most, we have a negative balance of trade. But that is another story.

Full access, such as the level of access the UK has enjoyed for the past few decades, certainly does.

 

Any less, and then it's not frictionless anymore.

 

Have you got familiar with Incoterms yet? 49 days to do so, and to check your supply and sale contracts for pitfalls (eg penalties for missed delivery deadlines to clients: don't expect business insurers to class the consequences of a no deal Brexit on 29 March 2019 as force majeure: everybody has known it was a possibility for the last 2 years at least).

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35 minutes ago, woodview said:

Vote in a party that will fund the areas that you want funding, rather than allowing an external organisation to do it, using a fraction of the money paid in. It is symbolic of the malaise that exists in British politics.

If you don't like it, change it.

 

Access to that market doesn't require a ridiculous funding, or  acentral Parliament. net recipients also have access to it, remember. We aren't exploiting it more than most, we have a negative balance of trade. But that is another story.

British politics isn’t going to change overnight whichever party gets a majority .However you are happy to entrust them with our future in the name of sovereignty.

In doing so you are prepared to make this leap of faith,which by comparison will be an overnight change.

Unfortunately the decision was made overnight,the easy bit has taken 21/2 years and still counting,and the pie in the sky trade deals will be interminable.

There are no benefits from Brexit worth this mess.

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57 minutes ago, woodview said:

rather than allowing an external organisation to do it,

The EU is no more an external organisation than NATO, the UN or the Worldwide Fund for Nature.

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7 hours ago, I1L2T3 said:

 

 

Anyway let’s imagine you are right. What do you think happens to the other £9bn?

It subsidises the countries that are net benefactors from the EU, who get out more than they put in - i.e. most members apart from the UK, Germany and France.

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1 hour ago, woodview said:

Vote in a party that will fund the areas that you want funding, rather than allowing an external organisation to do it, using a fraction of the money paid in.

That organisation isn't simply external, it's us.. we're part of it, and replicating the systems we enjoy as an EU member is going to cost more than our membership fee... so that "fraction" has already been spent :loopy:

 

There is no Brexit dividend.

 

10 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

It subsidises the countries that are net benefactors from the EU, who get out more than they put in - i.e. most members apart from the UK, Germany and France.

If that's all it does, how come leaving is going to cost more than our membership fee ever did?

 

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UK-Japan trade talks stall

https://www.ft.com/content/5ce60af2-2b90-11e9-a5ab-ff8ef2b976c7

Tokyo is confident that it can secure better terms from the UK than it did in negotiations with the much larger EU, and is not willing to duplicate the existing treaty precisely in either a bilateral deal or in talks for the UK to join the Trans-Pacific Partnership group.

 

Imagine my surprise to read that something that's been dismissed as "project fear" is actually happening :rolleyes:

 

Turns out.. size does matter! :hihi:

 

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8 minutes ago, Magilla said:

Tokyo is confident that it can secure better terms from the UK than it did in negotiations with the much larger EU, and is not willing to duplicate the existing treaty precisely in either a bilateral deal or in talks for the UK to join the Trans-Pacific Partnership group.

Again, this was something that we knew about before the referendum and was dismissed by the crackpots, cranks, xenophobes and vested interests.

 

There are very good reasons for the UK to belong to a larger trading bloc of our neighbours, but what is yet to come is that if we do leave the EU, is the prospect of the carcass of our economy being picked over by vultures. Many Leave supporters are delighting in sticking two fingers up at the EU and anyone else that they perceive as 'foreign', yet seem to think that these 'foreigners' will come to our rescue once we have put our own economy on the bonfire.

 

I know that we are not supposed to say that Leave voters were stupid but an awful lot of them are coming across like that. 🙄

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3 hours ago, Magilla said:

 

 

If that's all it does, how come leaving is going to cost more than our membership fee ever did?

 

It isn't in direct relation to future membership fees. Any economic hit (or boom) is a separate matter to net contributors Vs net benefactors of membership fees.

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Oh crikey, after leaving the corrupt EU and the food banks have no grub, we will have to eat our children to survive.

 

Angel1.

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16 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

Any economic hit (or boom) is a separate matter to net contributors Vs net benefactors of membership fees.

Quite, which is why when asked about costs, it's odd that contributors/benefactors is all some people seem to be able to go on about :suspect:

 

The EU does much more than just share fee's around as some seem to believe.

 

 

 

 

16 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

Oh crikey, after leaving the corrupt EU and the food banks have no grub, we will have to eat our children to survive.

Don't be daft, start on the pets first :loopy:

 

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