The french treat speed cameras exactly as they should be treat

[Albert smith 11]

1 hour ago, lottiecass said:

Come off it albert, what van is it  a commer or a ford trader? my truck is 15yrs old and does more than that.

You calling me a liar ,its a LVD 1998 Top peed 55mph . is that OK  for you .

[Longcol 594]

A few observations from someone living in France (only for six months - but with holidays etc in France for over 30 years have driven a nigh on 100,000 miles over here without an accident).

 

I live in a rural part of France - the "speed camera" story appears in the local papers nearly every week (and predates "gilets jaunes by several months) - far more common are stories of people being killed or injured in traffic accidents. France has about double the number of road deaths compared to the UK.

 

There are only two speed cameras in a 20 mile radius of where I live (there is a French website that shows the locations of all permanent ones). One is on the approach to a blind junction followed shortly by a sharp bend over a narrow bridge - this is after a few miles of fairly straight road. The other is coming into the local town just before a bend after which are a number of small factory units which often have lorries coming in and out.

 

The fact that you are approaching a speed camera is clearly signed a hundred yards or so before, plus in both cases there is a 50kmph sign about 50 yards before the camera. 

 

If this is a way to raise revenue then they are doing it totally wrong.

 

A large number (although a decreasing number) of French drivers still happily overtake someone doing the speed limit or more prior to blind bends etc - absolutely no way they could stop within the distance that they can see ahead - they get away with it because the roads are generally very quiet - although you're far more likely to encounter an artic etc on French country lanes than in England.

 

I will happily drive at more than the speed limit in the right conditions.

 

 

[Brooker11 10]

4 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Please tell me that's not a serious question? 😵

It is explain please.

[melthebell 862]

funnily enough, just popped up on a local page on facebook

 

*** Speed Campaign Launching across Cleveland and Durham ***

A campaign aimed at tackling speeding drivers launches next week, as new legislation is brought in nationally to help civilian speed camera operators carry out their work.

New legislation being introduced across Cleveland and Durham will mean that the ‘obstructing a police constable’ law will also apply to civilian speed camera operators as part of the Police Reform Act.

There have been a number of incidents whereby speed camera vans and their operators have been targeted, including an incident where a camera operator was being obstructed by a member of the public who was also trying to gain access to the van. The suspect was later charged with a Public Order offence.

Another incident in the Stockton area saw an operator being obstructed, but the suspect had left the scene before police arrived. This occurred in the same location that windows on a camera van were damaged by bricks a few weeks earlier.

Throughout 2018 Cleveland and Durham forces found 31,520 drivers putting lives at risk by travelling above the speed limit. As part of the upcoming campaign, roads with 20mph speed limits will also see enforcement action.

Inspector Jon Curtis, from the Cleveland and Durham Specialist Operations Unit, said: “Each speeding driver puts at least one life at risk each time they speed; their own, anyone else in their vehicle and any other motorists or pedestrians using the road.

“It is unacceptable that people continue to speed, despite knowing the risks. The figures show that more than 2,500 people were found speeding on our roads every month last year and this demonstrates that our continued action is essential for helping to keep people as safe as we possibly can.

“Our priority is to target areas known to have a history of speed-related road traffic collisions, as well as areas impacting on the quality of life of the public of County Durham, Darlington and Cleveland concerning the excessive number of speeding vehicles in their communities.

“No one should obstruct a camera operator from doing their job, it is illegal. Speeding contributes towards one quarter of all serious and fatal collisions. The introduction of the new legislation will help assist our civilian camera operators by protecting them from the very small number of people who, through their actions, seek to prevent the police from fulfilling the desire of the wider community to have safer roads.”

[Top Cats Hat 10]

34 minutes ago, Brooker11 said:

It is explain please.

OK.

 

Legislation reqires that the presence of speed cameras be signed for a good number of miles before the location of the camera. Speed limits are posted regularly on road signs and a knowledge of the highway code gives a fair idea of what speed limits apply to which type of roads. Added to that, static speed cameras are (again by legislation) painted very bright yellow or orange.

 

So if you are caught by one you are either deliberately trying to be caught or you are not paying attention.

[Longcol 594]

26 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

 Added to that, static speed cameras are (again by legislation) painted very bright yellow or orange.

 

 

And they're mounted on poles so they can be seen from a good hundred yards away - unlike the French ones which are black and on the ground - although the signs advertising their presence are pretty massive.

 

https://www.ledauphine.com/france-monde/2010/07/30/un-nouveau-panneau-pour-signaler-les-zones-controles-radars-frequents

Edited January 11, 2019 by Longcol

[Brooker11 10]

39 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

OK.

 

Legislation reqires that the presence of speed cameras be signed for a good number of miles before the location of the camera. Speed limits are posted regularly on road signs and a knowledge of the highway code gives a fair idea of what speed limits apply to which type of roads. Added to that, static speed cameras are (again by legislation) painted very bright yellow or orange.

 

So if you are caught by one you are either deliberately trying to be caught or you are not paying attention.

There are also many roads with speed camera signs that DON'T have actual cameras, mobile cameras are usually held by a black clad individual partially hiding, there are unmarked vans with blacked out windows containing cameras, your talking nonsense.

 

Another non driver to the list.

[Top Cats Hat 10]

35 minutes ago, Brooker11 said:

there are unmarked vans with blacked out windows containing cameras, your talking nonsense.

Really?

 

All camera vans have a large black and white camera logo painted on them and guess what? They are parked at the end of a straight where people are most likely to be at maximum speed so also plenty of time to see them and slow down.

 

I wil say again. Only an idiot who isn't paying attention to their surroundings is caught be a speed camera!

[lottiecass 17]

5 hours ago, Albert smith said:

You calling me a liar ,its a LVD 1998 Top peed 55mph . is that OK  for you .

You have my sympathy albert, it must be one of the few left on the road. The only time it would be doing 70mph is freewheeling down winnats pass.

[ANGELFIRE1 10]

19 hours ago, SnailyBoy said:

 

It's a fine to compensate the state, where do you think the fines go to?

UK CASH COW: Speed cameras are NOT for safety but make LOTS of money, admit police

SPEED cameras on the Britain’s motorways may be permanently switched-on in an unashamed police bid to fleece motorists and patch-up swingeing Government cuts to force budgets.

 

Source, Express.

 

Angel1.

[Bargepole23 337]

2 hours ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

UK CASH COW: Speed cameras are NOT for safety but make LOTS of money, admit police

SPEED cameras on the Britain’s motorways may be permanently switched-on in an unashamed police bid to fleece motorists and patch-up swingeing Government cuts to force budgets.

 

Source, Express.

 

Angel1.

Ha Ha.

[woodview 10]

15 hours ago, ads36 said:

Drivers are the last people who should be involved in making decisions on speed limits.

 

Pedestrians, residents, cyclists, horse riders, parents, etc. The people who have to share the roads with the selfish morons in their fast, noisy, dangerous, 2tonne isolation machines.

 

Driver, pedestrian, resident, cyclist, etc.

Rubbish.

Speed limits are currently enforced by police drivers. Speed penalities, decisions to site cameras etc etc etc are all carried out by people who can drive.

Do you imagine drivers want unrestricted limits wherever??