woodmally   10 #1 Posted January 9, 2019 Yet again if someone has a "poor background" they are let of lightly by the judges. So its alright to attack someone if you have a bad childhood. Utterly disgusting.  https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/man-who-attacked-stranger-yards-away-from-his-south-yorkshire-home-walks-away-from-court-with-community-order-1-9526691?fbclid=IwAR3h0C1oGLkYETcqstIkH9nF14mI_9b_j3MMNeF9twAMVkL4JPNvUEsFm08 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #2 Posted January 9, 2019 its not let off lightly, its mitigating circumstances which are taken in every case, and so they should. Its not all about prosecution, but defence too.  that story doesnt mention how it all came to be either, how it all started, obviously something started the arguement with the neighbour, and im sure there was something more than "what are you doing" and bash bash bash 10 times Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
geared   318 #3 Posted January 9, 2019 Glove was on the other hand with that Cambridge University student that stabbed her boyfriend in a drug-induced rage.  Then it was all claims of elitism and no punishment for the rich. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
dutch   68 #4 Posted January 9, 2019 Interesting topic. Could be lots said about it, only thing is the info is from the star and I cannot base my statements on twisted speculations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
woodview   10 #5 Posted January 9, 2019 Police also took 11 months to charge the guy eventually found guilty. I'd guess there's more to it than is being reported. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ANGELFIRE1 Â Â 10 #6 Posted January 9, 2019 Sorry, if you do the crime, you serve the time. Mitigating circumstances, balderdash. Â Don't know why the text is like it is, must have pressed a button somewhere, apologies. Â Angel1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
iansheff   88 #7 Posted January 9, 2019 Don't know about if you are poor but if you are well known like Katie Price you can get off lightly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Resident   1,193 #8 Posted January 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, iansheff said: Don't know about if you are poor but if you are well known like Katie Price you can get off lightly. Exactly. She got a 3 month ban and fines totalling 1300 for driving whilst disqualified and no insurance.  The sentence is the absolute minimum, according to sentence guidelines for just the offence of driving whilst disqualified (Minimum disqualification + Band A fine) so no punishment for driving with no insurance which should be a further 6-8 points and Band C fine.  There's also the outstanding matter of her arrest for drink-drive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Eater Sundae   12 #9 Posted January 9, 2019 But surely all examples of driving while disqualified must also mean they are not insured - so when sentencing for driving while disqualified, the minimum sentence is OK as it must have already allowed for the lack of insurance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
1978 Â Â 14 #10 Posted January 9, 2019 5 hours ago, woodview said: Police also took 11 months to charge the guy eventually found guilty. I'd guess there's more to it than is being reported. Too right, the speed of the judicial system is illustrated here and delays of this order are endemic. That needs sorting out if we are to have faith in our courts. Far too many cases that should be dealt with in a couple of weeks, certainly no more than a couple of months, are taking for ever. 17 months for a fairly simple case like this suggests it got lost in umpteen in trays and mailboxes. And he pleaded guilty after all that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Resident   1,193 #11 Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Eater Sundae said: But surely all examples of driving while disqualified must also mean they are not insured - so when sentencing for driving while disqualified, the minimum sentence is OK as it must have already allowed for the lack of insurance You'd think however they are separate charges which have different guidelines. if if they were considered together the no insurance carries a higher penalty fine-wise so that should be adopted.  6 hours ago, woodview said: Police also took 11 months to charge the guy eventually found guilty. I'd guess there's more to it than is being reported. It could only be assumed that despite circumstantial evidence they had nothing concrete therefore were unable request that the CPS take the case and formally charge him.  13 minutes ago, 1978 said: Too right, the speed of the judicial system is illustrated here and delays of this order are endemic. That needs sorting out if we are to have faith in our courts. Far too many cases that should be dealt with in a couple of weeks, certainly no more than a couple of months, are taking for ever. 17 months for a fairly simple case like this suggests it got lost in umpteen in trays and mailboxes. And he pleaded guilty after all that! TBH the guilty plea will have just been a tactic to reduce his sentence. It's something that annoys me greatly. Pleading guilty can get you upto 1/3 OFF the tariff for the crime and I believe it shouldn't. If a crime has a sentence of 10 years then pleading guilty should get you those 10 years. If you plead not guilty and then are found guilty by a jury that should ADD 1/3 to the 10 years, giving you 13.3r years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Crosser   10 #12 Posted January 11, 2019 oh another 3.3 years of taxpayers money..... cool (NOT!)  It should be like Thailand Your family feed you or it's fish heads for every meal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...