'winning scratchcard' dispute

[Mr Bloke 1,445]

1 hour ago, tlangdon12 said:

If you did such an audit, you would find that most people who live solely on benefits spend 90+% of their money on essentials such as rent, food, fuel, transport for essential travel such as to the hospital or Jobcentre, care services, mobile phones/broadband and clothes.  And smartphone and data service or a Broadband data service at home is essential now that Universal Credit is here; the only way to claim this benefit and to advise the DWP of change of circumstances is using the Internet. 

 

The point of benefits isn't as charity to worthy individuals but to ensure that all citizens are housed, fed, clothed and cared for because we are a civilised and caring society.  Some citizens are feckless, but many are ill, or just ill-equipped.

 

Where people's life chances can be improved, the benefits system and charities are working towards this, but it is a slow process. Potentially you have to undo years of poor parenting, poor education and poor choices. To me is seems right that we try to do this and right that we support people if they need it.

 

The cost of any audit would far outweigh any money saved by finding people who were spending money on things that society thought were unsuitable. The benefits system is already very challenging to use, even for people who have all their faculties. Auditing claimants would create an even more corrosive environment, and increase the perception of the gap between rich and the poor.  It's unnecessary. 

Hmmm...

 

... this is the same old excuse trotted out by those who may (or may not) have a vested interest in the benefits system supporting those who are work shy but system savvy.

 

If the facts as reported in the article are true, then by his own admission, this particular individual has stated that he spends over £6,000 a year on scratch cards.

 

Ask yourself how many working people could afford that?

 

So that must obviously mean that he and his family are receiving at least £6,000 a year more than they really need to live on.

 

It may not be feasible to audit everyone, but a random audit as suggested, particularly on those who are dozy enough to make their wastefulness public, is far overdue...

[teecee75 10]

interesting to see the pseudo lefty liberals response to  the facts as admitted by the man himself 

4 minutes ago, Mr Bloke said:

Hmmm...

 

... this is the same old excuse trotted out by those who may (or may not) have a vested interest in the benefits system supporting those who are work shy but system savvy.

 

If the facts as reported in the article are true, then by his own admission, this particular individual has stated that he spends over £6,000 a year on scratch cards.

 

Ask yourself how many working people could afford that?

 

So that must obviously mean that he and his family are receiving at least £6,000 a year more than they really need to live on.

 

It may not be feasible to audit everyone, but a random audit as suggested, particularly on those who are dozy enough to make their wastefulness public, is far overdue...

 

[Baron99 778]

Isn't it the case that within each type of scratchcard games their are so many millions pound prizes, so many half million pound prizes, so many quarter pound prizes, etc down to the lower monetary amounts. 

So Camel other would keep know how many £200k prizes are out there & how many would have been claimed already. 

[truman 10]

2 hours ago, Baron99 said:

Isn't it the case that within each type of scratchcard games their are so many millions pound prizes, so many half million pound prizes, so many quarter pound prizes, etc down to the lower monetary amounts. 

So Camel other would keep know how many £200k prizes are out there & how many would have been claimed already. 

I would assume there's a reference number on the card somewhere and that Camelot hold a list of winning card ref. numbers...easy to check one against the other surely..

[geared 302]

Yea a barcode, QR code or something to scan.  To prevent someone trying to pull a fast one by changing a ticket.

[mafya 243]

8 minutes ago, geared said:

Yea a barcode, QR code or something to scan.  To prevent someone trying to pull a fast one by changing a ticket.

To check a winning scratch card you scan the barcode at the back of it and then enter the last 4 digits of the code on the scratch panel itself on a lottery machine which then verifies if it is a winning ticket.

[Top Cats Hat 10]

Every scratchcard sold anywhere in the world has a serial number which is registered on a database alongside what is printed on the card. 

 

If there wasn't, we'd all be millionaires! 😏

[bassett one 449]

it seems odd someone on benefits has that much spare cash,then tell the world how much he spends on these cards,very strange,then the ticket that seems odd as well,there are to many codes ect to get away with a fraud if hes tried it ,like it seems,the whole lot seems very strange and gives a impression that all people on benefits are loaded with extra cash.

[PRESLEY 1,222]

9 hours ago, blackydog said:

The biggest crooks are Camelot, 2 numbers 2 stars £8.50!!!!

Branson should have won his bid for the lottery.   Camelot and the Goverment thick as thieves.  I do the Irish instead.  Camelot con bunch. 

[Dragon 2 0]

12 hours ago, PRESLEY said:

Branson should have won his bid for the lottery.   Camelot and the Goverment thick as thieves.  I do the Irish instead.  Camelot con bunch. 

Branson is as bad if not worse by his own admission! Read his book, I never bought off him again after I did. 

[Bargepole23 337]

20 hours ago, Resident said:

Indeed. 

 

It's high time those that live solely of benefits be randomly audited to see where money is going. 

What for? So people like yourself can pass judgement?

 

It would be an expensive waste of time.

[Resident 1,185]

2 hours ago, Bargepole23 said:

What for? So people like yourself can pass judgement?

 

It would be an expensive waste of time.

Benefits are meant to be a safety net not a lifestyle. 

 

If you're spending 120+ a week on scratchies then that's obviously 120 quid a week you don't NEED. 

 

How often do you see programs on TV of layabouts who haven't worked a day in their life and no intention of ever doing so, yet they have £1000 phones in their hand, massive high-end TVs and subscription entertainment packages?

 

Benefits need a massive shakeup and an audit to see what they're being spent on would highlight where should be trimmed.