France is in chaos .

[Albert smith 11]

 It seems as Our neighbour just twenty miles away is in complete breakdown with riots in Paris as well as Country wide , The people are fed up with high taxes as well as unstoppable immigration from Africa and the Middle East.

Macron who seems to favour the establishment inc the Mega rich it seems has lost the backing the ordinary working people ,can this unrest cross the channel or become the norm throughout many Countries in the E.U. seems to be the question many are asking .

[Magilla 510]

36 minutes ago, Albert smith said:

 It seems as Our neighbour just twenty miles away is in complete breakdown with riots in Paris as well as Country wide , The people are fed up with high taxes as well as unstoppable immigration from Africa and the Middle East.

It's not about unstoppable immigration. It's about the high cost of living and fuel prices.

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Macron who seems to favour the establishment inc the Mega rich it seems has lost the backing the ordinary working people ,can this unrest cross the channel or become the norm throughout many Countries in the E.U. seems to be the question many are asking .

The  government is desperate to avoid no-deal as part of the  Brexit shambles because they know there's a very good chance that would cause far more unrest than we see in France.

 

So, in essence, yes there is a good chance it could happen here, but not for any of the reasons you imply.

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46 minutes ago, Albert smith said:

 The people are fed up with high taxes as well as unstoppable immigration from Africa and the Middle East

 

 

Really?

 

Then you have obviously missed the reports of far-right elements who are trying to jump on the bandwagon of unrest are being chased away by protestors.

[despritdan 241]

They may not be protesting about high levels of immigration but that's the root cause of the tax rises. They're rapidly becoming a third world country trying to maintain the standards of a first world country just as Britain is, which is why we're so deeply in debt and seeing services being cut as taxes rise. The ever rising demands on the welfare state and NHS of both countries is due to population increase and rising birth rates due to the culture of large families that the incomers bring with them. Add to that the cost of dealing with the rising levels of crime and you end up unsustainable demands on the public purse.

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1 minute ago, despritdan said:

They may not be protesting about high levels of immigration but that's the root cause of the tax rises. They're rapidly becoming a third world country trying to maintain the standards of a first world country just as Britain is, which is why we're so deeply in debt and seeing services being cut as taxes rise. The ever rising demands on the welfare state and NHS of both countries is due to population increase and rising birth rates due to the culture of large families that the incomers bring with them. Add to that the cost of dealing with the rising levels of crime and you end up unsustainable demands on the public purse.

More racist, fake news economics.

 

Immigrants into the UK make a net contribution to the UK economy. All immigrants contribute 2% more in taxes than they recieve in benefits. EU immigrants contribute 34% more in taxes than they recieve in benefits.

 

Without immigration the NHS would pretty much cease to function.

[geared 302]

The French are protesting about high taxes and high fuel prices, but they've got a bloated public sector and have resisted change to employment law to keep people in their jobs.

 

Can't have it both ways.

[Lockdoctor 10]

The riots and civil unrest show no signs of ending in Paris. The protests seem to be led by the group calling them-self the Yellow Vests has resulted in at least two deaths and many more than 600 injuries. The French authorities have used tear gas and water cannon on their own people several times and are now considering the use of State of Emergency powers to counter their own citizens. The riots are apparently as a result of rising prices, especially fuel prices as Magilla stated. President Macron's policies are blamed for the riots and civil unrest. 

 

I find in very sad that in a country which has suffered so much recent bloodshed on their streets at the hands of foreign terrorists that the French people choose to turn their own streets into battlegrounds. The right thing to do is to protest peacefully and use the ballot box  during the next French elections to change policies. It's very worrying for Europe that scenes that  we have witnessed on television are occurring in the capital of the EU's second biggest supporter. Hopefully, this behaviour will not  spread throughout the EU and the riots and civil unrest will be confined to France, who have have a tradition where their citizens behave in an uncivilised manner when protesting.

[banjodeano 28]

15 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

The riots and civil unrest show no signs of ending in Paris. The protests seem to be led by the group calling them-self the Yellow Vests has resulted in at least two deaths and many more than 600 injuries. The French authorities have used tear gas and water cannon on their own people several times and are now considering the use of State of Emergency powers to counter their own citizens. The riots are apparently as a result of rising prices, especially fuel prices as Magilla stated. President Macron's policies are blamed for the riots and civil unrest. 

 

I find in very sad that in a country which has suffered so much recent bloodshed on their streets at the hands of foreign terrorists that the French people choose to turn their own streets into battlegrounds. The right thing to do is to protest peacefully and use the ballot box  during the next French elections to change policies. It's very worrying for Europe that scenes that  we have witnessed on television are occurring in the capital of the EU's second biggest supporter. Hopefully, this behaviour will not  spread throughout the EU and the riots and civil unrest will be confined to France, who have have a tradition where their citizens behave in an uncivilised manner when protesting.

 

not necessarily so, do you think we would still have the poll tax if there wasn't mass demonstrations?

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8 minutes ago, Lockdoctor said:

 France, who have have a tradition where their citizens behave in an uncivilised manner when protesting.

Uncivilised, it may be but it is certaily effective.

 

French workers have a much higher standard of living, better terms and conditions, greater job security, protected pensions and a much better health service than we have. The interests of their farmers and fishermen  are taken very seriously in negotiations with other countries.

 

A major reason for this is that the French as a nation have a lot of pride in themselves and will take to the streets almost immediately to achieve their aims.

 

What do we do?

 

Mutter into our pints about how bad things are then vote UKIP to 'stick it to the man!' While we are obsessed with celebrity and queue up in droves to fawn over the latest minor royal, the French dragged their royals and aristocracy out of their chateaux and palaces two hundred years ago and chopped their heads off.

 

If you want something you have to be prepared to fight for it.

[janie48 95]

"France in chaos" That's nothing new is it? 

The French have a history of revolutions and protesting, it's in their blood. Their policy seems to be, protest first negotiate later. 

 

 

[melthebell 862]

Good job we 're moving further away then innit?

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21 minutes ago, janie48 said:

Their policy seems to be, protest first negotiate later. 

 

 

A very effective tactic.