melthebell   863 #229 Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Penistone999 said: If these people were fleeing persecution in their own country, they would want to get to the FIRST country of safety , not risk their lives even more by travelling through several more SAFE countries ,then risk their lives trying to sneak into Blighty in a rubber dingy in the middle of the night . youve been given plenty of reasons why they may want to get to the uk, instead you carry on perpetuating lies and mistruths and peddling right wing drivel. none of this i just quoted changes the definition of what a refugee is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,625 #230 Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Penistone999 said: If these people were fleeing persecution in their own country, they would want to get to the FIRST country of safety , not risk their lives even more by travelling through several more SAFE countries ,then risk their lives trying to sneak into Blighty in a rubber dingy in the middle of the night . Maybe they've heard stories about how generous the system of welfare is to asylum seekers, that are regularly peddled and widely publicised by lying rags like The Sun and The Express. Edited January 7, 2019 by Mister M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #231 Posted January 7, 2019 39 minutes ago, melthebell said: youve been given plenty of reasons why they may want to get to the uk, instead you carry on perpetuating lies and mistruths and peddling right wing drivel. none of this i just quoted changes the definition of what a refugee is. You can't expect facts to have any impact on his opinion, surely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB   688 #232 Posted January 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Penistone999 said: If these people were fleeing persecution in their own country, they would want to get to the FIRST country of safety , not risk their lives even more by travelling through several more SAFE countries ,then risk their lives trying to sneak into Blighty in a rubber dingy in the middle of the night . And if their first place of safety turned out to be living in a shanty town,or worse who can blame a few for continuing their search for a better life? The dream may well be a false one but it might work out for a few. The fact that they do take such risks ought to tell you something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Broakham   10 #233 Posted January 7, 2019 Among the thousands of refugees entering the EU there are many, many economic migrants who have no intentions of trying to claim asylum as they know they will be denied. These are the people who do a great disservice to the genuine asylum seekers by bringing the whole system into disrepute. If the genuine refugees followed EU rules and applied for asylum in the first safe country then it would be much easier to deal with the fakers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #234 Posted January 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, Broakham said: Among the thousands of refugees entering the EU there are many, many economic migrants who have no intentions of trying to claim asylum as they know they will be denied. These are the people who do a great disservice to the genuine asylum seekers by bringing the whole system into disrepute. If the genuine refugees followed EU rules and applied for asylum in the first safe country then it would be much easier to deal with the fakers. you seem expert on talking twaddle does it come naturally or do you work at it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Broakham   10 #235 Posted January 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, melthebell said: you seem expert on talking twaddle does it come naturally or do you work at it? I have to work at, so I read your posts for inspiration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
OPEN BORDERS Â Â 10 #236 Posted January 7, 2019 18 minutes ago, Broakham said: Among the thousands of refugees entering the EU there are many, many economic migrants who have no intentions of trying to claim asylum as they know they will be denied. These are the people who do a great disservice to the genuine asylum seekers by bringing the whole system into disrepute. If the genuine refugees followed EU rules and applied for asylum in the first safe country then it would be much easier to deal with the fakers. Spot on mate. However, they do not wish to pursue the 'legal' route, because they are 'economic migrants'. That's it in a nutshell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #237 Posted January 7, 2019 You've just agreed with "genuine refugees..." and in the same sentence claimed they are economic migrants. You literally don't understand what you're saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Penistone999   10 #238 Posted January 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Mister M said: Maybe they've heard stories about how generous the system of welfare is to asylum seekers, that are regularly peddled and widely publicised by lying rags like The Sun and The Express. Speaking of which , its no surprise they risk their lives to sneak in here illegally. It beggars belief.  https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get  If you’ve been refused asylum You’ll be given: somewhere to live £35.39 per person on a payment card for food, clothing and toiletries .  You couldnt make it up . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SnailyBoy   10 #239 Posted January 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, Penistone999 said: Speaking of which , its no surprise they risk their lives to sneak in here illegally. It beggars belief.  https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get  If you’ve been refused asylum You’ll be given: somewhere to live £35.39 per person on a payment card for food, clothing and toiletries .  You couldnt make it up . I get it, sarcasm.  Good one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #240 Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Penistone999 said: Speaking of which , its no surprise they risk their lives to sneak in here illegally. It beggars belief.  https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get  If you’ve been refused asylum You’ll be given: somewhere to live £35.39 per person on a payment card for food, clothing and toiletries .  You couldnt make it up . I'd like to see how far you'd last on 35 quid a week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...