choogling   14 #97 Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) On 12/28/2018 at 4:19 PM, I1L2T3 said: Potential terrorists?  Your post sounds crazy why is it crazy, the government is now proposing to do exactly that, and about time too. most of them carry no papers so avoiding deportation in Russia they would be considered to be spies . Edited December 31, 2018 by choogling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ANGELFIRE1 Â Â 10 #98 Posted December 31, 2018 5 hours ago, El Cid said: I think you should change the title of this thread, it is rather misleading. Â An influx is ""an arrival or entry of large numbers of people or things"". Â The title is worthy of a Nigel Farage poster. Nah, I think influx is spot on, in my opinion of course. You have a different opinion which is just fine. Â Another question for the snowflakes, when our border patrol ship "rescues" these boat people determined to get onto our shores, why do they bring them here, common sense dictates they should be returned back to France. Â Regarding Nigel Farage, I would have him for PM before any of the Parasites that inhabit Westminster, bar a couple who are ok. Â Angel1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tzijlstra   11 #99 Posted December 31, 2018 32 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said: Nah, I think influx is spot on, in my opinion of course. You have a different opinion which is just fine.  Another question for the snowflakes, when our border patrol ship "rescues" these boat people determined to get onto our shores, why do they bring them here, common sense dictates they should be returned back to France.  Regarding Nigel Farage, I would have him for PM before any of the Parasites that inhabit Westminster, bar a couple who are ok.  Angel1. Simple rhetoric Angel, very simple. But hey, let's continue with the 'snowflake' and 'returned' as it is seemingly the best way for you to comprehend the equation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #100 Posted December 31, 2018 36 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said: Nah, I think influx is spot on, in my opinion of course. You have a different opinion which is just fine.  Another question for the snowflakes, when our border patrol ship "rescues" these boat people determined to get onto our shores, why do they bring them here, common sense dictates they should be returned back to France.  Regarding Nigel Farage, I would have him for PM before any of the Parasites that inhabit Westminster, bar a couple who are ok.  Angel1. What if they haven't come from France? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mickey finn   12 #101 Posted December 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, gaz 786 said: Put them in for the Olympics ..rowing team 😂😂😂😂 It would be about as mixed up as Lennox Lewis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
woodmally   10 #102 Posted December 31, 2018 54 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said: What if they haven't come from France? Well I'd love to know how they have rowed from Iran to Europe. Maybe round Africa? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   594 #103 Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, woodmally said: Well I'd love to know how they have rowed from Iran to Europe. Maybe round Africa? Somehow I don't think they rowed to the Channel ports in Europe. You can get overland from Iran to Europe without crossing anything wider than a river. Edited December 31, 2018 by Longcol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ANGELFIRE1   10 #104 Posted January 1, 2019 17 hours ago, tinfoilhat said: What if they haven't come from France? Forgive me having a laugh at that, but all those in these inflatables must have set off from France, yes/no.  Angel1, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ANGELFIRE1   10 #105 Posted January 1, 2019 17 hours ago, tzijlstra said: Simple rhetoric Angel, very simple. But hey, let's continue with the 'snowflake' and 'returned' as it is seemingly the best way for you to comprehend the equation. Simple question tzijlstra, instead of trying to make posters into some kind of a racist, try answering the question, what would YOU do with the "rescued" boat people.  Angel1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tzijlstra   11 #106 Posted January 1, 2019 1 hour ago, ANGELFIRE1 said: Simple question tzijlstra, instead of trying to make posters into some kind of a racist, try answering the question, what would YOU do with the "rescued" boat people.  Angel1. On 12/31/2018 at 12:22 PM, tzijlstra said: You mean the seventies? When unemployment was around 4%? A bit like it is now? https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peoplenotinwork/unemployment/timeseries/mgsx/lms  Also, let's not conflate migrants with refugees, they are not the same. Reasons refugees want to come here: Most of the refugees speak English, those that don't speak at least some Arabic, both are common languages in the UK, certainly used enough to get by on. They believe that the UK is a liberal place, welcoming of refugees. They believe they can build a life here, even if illegal, because the British don't have rigid enough checks and procedures.  As L00b points out, in France (and actually most of the continent) there is an identification duty on all citizens. Ie. if I walk around the Netherlands and can't produce ID I can get arrested (in practice I won't be, but the option is there). If I work in the Netherlands, I have to not just have a NS number, I also need to have a registration with a local authority and demonstrate proof of it. Both are non-existent here. Top that off with a far more developed refugee-process in the Netherlands and most other places in Western Europe, if you arrive as a refugee you get to live in a camp whilst awaiting all background checks, if you fail those checks of legitimacy you get deported. So Iranians tend to get sent back, as do many others who arrive with an 'economic migrant motive'.  Why is the system not as rigid in the UK? Because your government never considered it a problem. What did the government do to fix that? Ask you whether you wanted to leave the EU and conflate migration with refugeeship.  I already elaborated on it, but to clarify: If they are genuine refugees than the UK has a duty to look after them, if they are not, than they need to be sent back to their nation of origin, just as is happening across the Channel.  Also, where do I try and make you into a racist? So sensitive Angel... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #107 Posted January 1, 2019 2 hours ago, ANGELFIRE1 said: Forgive me having a laugh at that, but all those in these inflatables must have set off from France, yes/no.  Angel1, Ah, good, a man with the all the information. So you know, for a fact, these inflatables are setting directly from France and not being launched from boats mid way that could have set off from France or Belgium or Holland.  Good to know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3   10 #108 Posted January 1, 2019 2 hours ago, tzijlstra said:  I already elaborated on it, but to clarify: If they are genuine refugees than the UK has a duty to look after them, if they are not, than they need to be sent back to their nation of origin, just as is happening across the Channel.  Also, where do I try and make you into a racist? So sensitive Angel... Yeah but you miss the point.  We do not have a rigorous environment for new arrivals and that is entirely our own fault.  In the Netherlands you can’t access any services until you have a citizen number and a residency registration in a locality, never mind claim benefits. No job, no rental agreement, no phone contract, no bank account. Just just can’t get any of it.  The UK on the other hand....  It is all our own fault. 100% 22 hours ago, choogling said: why is it crazy, the government is now proposing to do exactly that, and about time too. most of them carry no papers so avoiding deportation in Russia they would be considered to be spies . Really?  By your logic even foreign person entering the U.K. should be considered a potential terrorist. And that is plain mad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...